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From: Kevin Gleeson on 9 Feb 2010 21:22 On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:52:38 -0600, boots <boots(a)despammed.com> wrote: >On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:41:32 -0000 in uk.rec.motorcycles, 'Hog says: > >>Andy Bonwick wrote: >> >>> Then you're missing out on a whole new experience. Not all caves are >>> restricted and dangerous but they all teach you to be able to dive in >>> braille. >> >>I refer Sir to the comments between Champ and myself. Diving is fun in >>bright clear warm water with lots of fish and coral. > >TBF I reckon it's more fun in dark cold water than warm blue water >with loads of fish. If I had to give up one or the other it would be >warm water diving that got the push. I agree. The waters off the East Coast of Tasmania for instance. Beats the hell out of the Great Barrier Reef or Fiji for me. Yeah, you need a semi-dry suit, but such a variety of experiences and clearer water in general as well. Never got to go for a dive in UK, but water temp would be similar, maybe a bit colder, than Tasmania. But find the right places to dive and cold water dives win.
From: 'Hog on 10 Feb 2010 06:17 Kevin Gleeson wrote: > On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:52:38 -0600, boots <boots(a)despammed.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:41:32 -0000 in uk.rec.motorcycles, 'Hog says: >> >>> Andy Bonwick wrote: >>> >>>> Then you're missing out on a whole new experience. Not all caves >>>> are restricted and dangerous but they all teach you to be able to >>>> dive in braille. >>> >>> I refer Sir to the comments between Champ and myself. Diving is >>> fun in bright clear warm water with lots of fish and coral. >> >> TBF I reckon it's more fun in dark cold water than warm blue water >> with loads of fish. If I had to give up one or the other it would be >> warm water diving that got the push. > > I agree. The waters off the East Coast of Tasmania for instance. Beats > the hell out of the Great Barrier Reef or Fiji for me. Yeah, you need > a semi-dry suit, but such a variety of experiences and clearer water > in general as well. Never got to go for a dive in UK, but water temp > would be similar, maybe a bit colder, than Tasmania. But find the > right places to dive and cold water dives win. It isn't that I mind the cold but I hate all the extra gear and restriction. -- Hog
From: Kevin Gleeson on 10 Feb 2010 08:37 On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:17:19 -0000, "'Hog" <sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote: >Kevin Gleeson wrote: >> On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:52:38 -0600, boots <boots(a)despammed.com> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 12:41:32 -0000 in uk.rec.motorcycles, 'Hog says: >>> >>>> Andy Bonwick wrote: >>>> >>>>> Then you're missing out on a whole new experience. Not all caves >>>>> are restricted and dangerous but they all teach you to be able to >>>>> dive in braille. >>>> >>>> I refer Sir to the comments between Champ and myself. Diving is >>>> fun in bright clear warm water with lots of fish and coral. >>> >>> TBF I reckon it's more fun in dark cold water than warm blue water >>> with loads of fish. If I had to give up one or the other it would be >>> warm water diving that got the push. >> >> I agree. The waters off the East Coast of Tasmania for instance. Beats >> the hell out of the Great Barrier Reef or Fiji for me. Yeah, you need >> a semi-dry suit, but such a variety of experiences and clearer water >> in general as well. Never got to go for a dive in UK, but water temp >> would be similar, maybe a bit colder, than Tasmania. But find the >> right places to dive and cold water dives win. > >It isn't that I mind the cold but I hate all the extra gear and restriction. Good gear (like any sport) should't find any more restriction really. I wouldn't do an open water dive off the Great Barrier Reef wihout a wetsuit on, yes a much lighter suit than Tas, down to just a lycra suit to stop coral scatches or stings from jellyfish. A good suit is hardly noticeable I've found. I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one :-)
From: Kevin Gleeson on 10 Feb 2010 08:52 On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:20:10 -0600, boots <boots(a)despammed.com> wrote: >On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:22:25 GMT in uk.rec.motorcycles, Kevin Gleeson >says: > >>On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:52:38 -0600, boots <boots(a)despammed.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>TBF I reckon it's more fun in dark cold water than warm blue water >>>with loads of fish. If I had to give up one or the other it would be >>>warm water diving that got the push. >> >>I agree. The waters off the East Coast of Tasmania for instance. Beats >>the hell out of the Great Barrier Reef or Fiji for me. Yeah, you need >>a semi-dry suit, but such a variety of experiences and clearer water >>in general as well. Never got to go for a dive in UK, but water temp >>would be similar, > >Not sure what it is in Tasmania. Current UK sea temperatures will be >around 7 or 8 degrees in the south[1]. Viz is variable but probably >averages at 3 or 4 metres, seen 30 plus a couple of times and also >less than 30cm. Drysuit every time in the UK for me, unless I know the >sea temp will be above 20, preferably 25 I'd take it to foreign as >well these days. > >[1] Finished a course 2 weeks ago using inland sites 3 - 5 degrees. >That was a tad too cool for me after a while. Depends where you are. I've been in turbulent stuff where viz is nil. I've dived in waters in Tas where viz is 45m. Water temp is normally ranging from min of around 10C to max around 18C. We get some upswells from the Antarctic that might drop it to 8C but that is rare. I have done some freshwater dives at 4C though. I was young and doing it in an old 7mm single suit wetsuit, with a hole in the crotch. Every time I kicked the fins it sent burst of nearly freezing water onto my balls. Oww, oww, oww. Maybe that explains why 30 years later I don't have any kids? (Apart from not wanting any of the little buggers).
From: Kevin Gleeson on 10 Feb 2010 08:55
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:20:10 -0600, boots <boots(a)despammed.com> wrote: >On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:22:25 GMT in uk.rec.motorcycles, Kevin Gleeson >says: > >>On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:52:38 -0600, boots <boots(a)despammed.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>TBF I reckon it's more fun in dark cold water than warm blue water >>>with loads of fish. If I had to give up one or the other it would be >>>warm water diving that got the push. >> >>I agree. The waters off the East Coast of Tasmania for instance. Beats >>the hell out of the Great Barrier Reef or Fiji for me. Yeah, you need >>a semi-dry suit, but such a variety of experiences and clearer water >>in general as well. Never got to go for a dive in UK, but water temp >>would be similar, > >Not sure what it is in Tasmania. Current UK sea temperatures will be >around 7 or 8 degrees in the south[1]. Viz is variable but probably >averages at 3 or 4 metres, seen 30 plus a couple of times and also >less than 30cm. Drysuit every time in the UK for me, unless I know the >sea temp will be above 20, preferably 25 I'd take it to foreign as >well these days. > >[1] Finished a course 2 weeks ago using inland sites 3 - 5 degrees. >That was a tad too cool for me after a while. Oh - btw, 3 degree water doesn't exist unless someone added alcohol to it. It stops at 4C then the next phase change is ice. |