From: Catman on
Switters wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:21:45 GMT, Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
>
>> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Catman
>> <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> typed
>>> There is, if memory serves, a re-arrangement of liquid molecules in
>>> the water that occurs at adn below 4C which accounts for the density
>>> of ice being less than that of liquid H2O (generally)?
>> <http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20527466.200-the-strangest-liqui
>> d- why-water-is-so-weird.html>
>
> Crickey, they're a bit behind the times. I learnt that at school.

I thought that too, but ITYF it's a bit more complex than what we (or at
least I) was taught.

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From: Catman on
doetnietcomputeren wrote:
> On 2010-02-10 17:29:20 +0100, Wicked Uncle Nigel
> <wun(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> said:
>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is, if memory serves, a re-arrangement of liquid molecules
>>>>>>> in the water that occurs at adn below 4C which accounts for the
>>>>>>> density of ice being less than that of liquid H2O (generally)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20527466.200-the-strangest-liq
>>>>>>
>>>>>> why-water-is-so-weird.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ooh, ta.
>>>> De nada. By a curious coincidence I was reading that on the shitter
>>>> this very morning.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Dare I ask your device of choice for such moments?
>>
>> A magazine.
>>
>> Call me old-fashioned.
>
> You need next years big release from Apple, the iPooed.
>

I was given a T-shirt with effectively that[1] on it. Not really
desperately funny, I felt.

[1]
http://www.sevenforums.com/attachments/chillout-room/18313d1247618755-funny-geeky-cool-pics-ipood-764090.jpg

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From: doetnietcomputeren on
On 2010-02-10 18:13:12 +0100, Catman <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> said:

>>>>> De nada. By a curious coincidence I was reading that on the shitter
>>>>> this very morning.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dare I ask your device of choice for such moments?
>>>
>>> A magazine.
>>>
>>> Call me old-fashioned.
>>
>> You need next years big release from Apple, the iPooed.
>>
>
> I was given a T-shirt with effectively that[1] on it. Not really
> desperately funny, I felt.
>
> [1]
> http://www.sevenforums.com/attachments/chillout-room/18313d1247618755-funny-geeky-cool-pics-ipood-764090.jpg

Oh
>
dear.


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From: platypus on

"Catman" <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:hkupf9$p10$5(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> doetnietcomputeren wrote:
>> On 2010-02-10 17:29:20 +0100, Wicked Uncle Nigel
>> <wun(a)wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> said:
>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is, if memory serves, a re-arrangement of liquid molecules in
>>>>>>>> the water that occurs at adn below 4C which accounts for the
>>>>>>>> density of ice being less than that of liquid H2O (generally)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20527466.200-the-strangest-liq
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> why-water-is-so-weird.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ooh, ta.
>>>>> De nada. By a curious coincidence I was reading that on the shitter
>>>>> this very morning.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dare I ask your device of choice for such moments?
>>>
>>> A magazine.
>>>
>>> Call me old-fashioned.
>>
>> You need next years big release from Apple, the iPooed.
>>
>
> I was given a T-shirt with effectively that[1] on it. Not really
> desperately funny, I felt.
>
> [1]
> http://www.sevenforums.com/attachments/chillout-room/18313d1247618755-funny-geeky-cool-pics-ipood-764090.jpg

http://img2.picload.org/image/orrod/icame.jpg


From: Kevin Gleeson on
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:46:02 GMT, ensmjc(a)bath.ac.uk (M J Carley)
wrote:

>In the referenced article, Kevin Gleeson <kevingleeson(a)imagine-it.com.au> writes:
>
>>Nope there is a point where it has to drop energy to go through the
>>phase change to ice. I don't have links and can't be arsed looking,
>>but seawater will only go to 4C. Th energy to do the phase change is
>>worth those other 3C. Google it. I'm sure it is out there somewhere.
>
>Naaah.
>
> Sea ice begins forming in the northern Bering Sea as late as
> November, as the ocean reaches a temperature of -1.7�C, the freezing
> point for saltwater in this area, ...
>
>http://www.beringclimate.noaa.gov/essays_mcnutt.html
>
>As it happens, you can get pure water down to about -40C before it
>freezes, if you're careful.

Fairy nuff. As I said I was just going on my dive training memory from
the 80s when we were told 4C was a cold as you could get. It's stuck
in my head since.
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