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From: Mark Olson on 14 Feb 2010 08:35 Andy Bonwick wrote: > I certainly don't want ABS or linked brakes and I doubt if I'm alone > in this. ABS isn't really very common on sports bikes and sports bikes > are the best selling type of bike in this country which kind of backs > my point up. I'm not a fan of linked brakes at all, but ABS is easy to slag off until it's kicked in a few times, at which time one has to admit it can save your bacon in a big way. ABS generally results in longer stopping distances in dry conditions with an expert rider, for everyone else, in real world conditions it is a definite boon. The only real downside to ABS for street riding is cost and weight. The Gen II FJR has both ABS and LB. If I had my way it would still have ABS but not the LB, although I think if you have to have linked brakes the FJR's system is the right way to do it: http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/yamaha/2006-yamaha-fjr1300-model-intro-921.html "Take heart, expert rider, the system is supposed to be pretty unobtrusive; the front brake is separate from the rest of the system." "Applying the rear brake hard (like many novice, untrained riders seem to do) will activate just two pistons on one of the Nissin four-piston front calipers via a proportioning valve for a quicker, safer stop. More experienced riders who mostly use front brakes for slowing can still happily use the rear brake lightly for trail-braking to settle the back end during spirited cornering, although backing it a la "King Kenny" might be a challenge."
From: Lozzo on 14 Feb 2010 08:38 Salad Dodger wrote: > On 14 Feb 2010 13:16:25 GMT, "Lozzo" <lozzo(a)lozzo.org.uk> wrote: > > <ABS> > > I'm not so > > sure I'd want it on a supersports bike though - I don't know why, > > but it just seems wrong. > > Yet the two "best" supersports bikes both have ABS. Best what? Best selling or best reviews? -- Lozzo Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, SR250 SpazzTrakka, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere) Garage clearout - Yamaha SpazzTrakka 250 for sale, email for details
From: Salad Dodger on 14 Feb 2010 08:43 On 14 Feb 2010 13:38:48 GMT, "Lozzo" <lozzo(a)lozzo.org.uk> wrote: >Salad Dodger wrote: > >> On 14 Feb 2010 13:16:25 GMT, "Lozzo" <lozzo(a)lozzo.org.uk> wrote: >> >> <ABS> >> > I'm not so >> > sure I'd want it on a supersports bike though - I don't know why, >> > but it just seems wrong. >> >> Yet the two "best" supersports bikes both have ABS. > >Best what? Best selling or best reviews? The latter, if IUC.
From: DozynSleepy on 14 Feb 2010 08:47 On 13/02/2010 19:32, JackH wrote: > Nige wrote: > >> On 13/02/2010 19:05, Simon Wilson wrote: >>> JackH wrote: >>> >>>>> In that case these type of riders should consider a bike other >>>>> than an 800cc V Four sports touring bike or a CBR1100X >>>>> Blackbird to learn their skills on. >>>> >>>> Or a Pan European... >>>> >>> >>> Old one's are just fine. >>> >> >> One i had didn't have linked brakes? > > They came in both non ABS / TCS and ABS / TCS flavours... > I have to say I was very impressed with the TCS on the Pan Euro I tried when it kicked in on a very slippy roundabout. I probably would have purchased it if the side stand hadn't ground out on a smaller roundabout further up the road. -- DozynSleepy Ducatenstein ST4s
From: Lozzo on 14 Feb 2010 08:53
Salad Dodger wrote: > On 14 Feb 2010 13:38:48 GMT, "Lozzo" <lozzo(a)lozzo.org.uk> wrote: > > > Salad Dodger wrote: > > > >> On 14 Feb 2010 13:16:25 GMT, "Lozzo" <lozzo(a)lozzo.org.uk> wrote: > >> > >> <ABS> > >> > I'm not so > >> > sure I'd want it on a supersports bike though - I don't know why, > >> > but it just seems wrong. > >> > >> Yet the two "best" supersports bikes both have ABS. > > > > Best what? Best selling or best reviews? > > The latter, if IUC. As I said, I like it on my bike, but haven't tried a supersports bike with it fitted to be able to make a judgement, it's just something I have in my head about it. Maybe once I have ridden them I'll change my mind. -- Lozzo Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, SR250 SpazzTrakka, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere) Garage clearout - Yamaha SpazzTrakka 250 for sale, email for details |