From: Andy Bonwick on 14 Feb 2010 12:23 On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 16:57:48 +0000, Salad Dodger <salad.dodger(a)idnet.com> wrote: >On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:38:08 +0000, Andy Bonwick ><nospam(a)bonwick.me.uk> wrote: > >>On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:31:28 +0000, Salad Dodger >><salad.dodger(a)idnet.com> wrote: > >>>Yet the two "best" supersports bikes both have ABS. >> >>Name and shame. > >According to all those deeply insightful folks at Bike, the 'blade , >and the Beemer -which is the bestest superbike ever in the whole wide >world. > >This week. Yeah, and this is how they described the Tenere: "Forget the GS; this is a properly appointed, proper capable device for real global adventures. Double decker tall. Bike tip: surprisingly serious." Shows what they know huh? I do like that new beemer though...
From: des hanging around for a while on 14 Feb 2010 12:38 On 2010-02-14, Tosspot <Frank.Leake(a)gmail.com> wrote: > What is the status of the clique? Have the clique deniers won the day or > is there clear evidence on increasing man made cliqueness? The jury's in. But really, as I've had occasion to point out in the past, if there were no Clique, then UKRM would be the only gathering of people in the history of the planet, where a small, (more or less) exclusive group had not formed with the aim (explicit or otherwise) of discriminating against the non-members. Indeed, not only is there a Clique, but there _must_ inevitably be one. -- des 'If Algeria introduced a resolution in the UN, declaring that the earth was flat and that Israel had flattened it, it would pass by a vote of 164 to 13 with 26 abstentions' (Abba Eban)
From: steve auvache on 14 Feb 2010 12:49 In article <4b7834fc$0$27796$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, des hanging around for a while <des(a)des.com> writes >On 2010-02-14, Tosspot <Frank.Leake(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> What is the status of the clique? Have the clique deniers won the day or >> is there clear evidence on increasing man made cliqueness? > >The jury's in. > >But really, as I've had occasion to point out in the past, if there were no >Clique, then UKRM would be the only gathering of people in the history of >the planet, where a small, (more or less) exclusive group had not formed >with the aim (explicit or otherwise) of discriminating against the >non-members. > >Indeed, not only is there a Clique, but there _must_ inevitably be one. My math might be wrong but surely the number of cliques in question is finitely probably N^(N-1). Where N = the total number of (regular?) posters to ukrm and you are only pissed because you are the -1 who isn't in one. -- steve auvache
From: Tosspot on 14 Feb 2010 14:50 On 02/14/2010 06:38 PM, des hanging around for a while wrote: > On 2010-02-14, Tosspot <Frank.Leake(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> What is the status of the clique? Have the clique deniers won the day or >> is there clear evidence on increasing man made cliqueness? > > The jury's in. > > But really, as I've had occasion to point out in the past, if there were no > Clique, then UKRM would be the only gathering of people in the history of > the planet, where a small, (more or less) exclusive group had not formed > with the aim (explicit or otherwise) of discriminating against the > non-members. > > Indeed, not only is there a Clique, but there _must_ inevitably be one. "In the end there can be only one..."
From: Beav on 14 Feb 2010 18:12
"Lozzo" <lozzo(a)lozzo.org.uk> wrote in message news:7tqdi7FrigU1(a)mid.individual.net... > Salad Dodger wrote: > >> On 14 Feb 2010 13:38:48 GMT, "Lozzo" <lozzo(a)lozzo.org.uk> wrote: >> >> > Salad Dodger wrote: >> > >> >> On 14 Feb 2010 13:16:25 GMT, "Lozzo" <lozzo(a)lozzo.org.uk> wrote: >> >> >> >> <ABS> >> >> > I'm not so >> >> > sure I'd want it on a supersports bike though - I don't know why, >> >> > but it just seems wrong. >> >> >> >> Yet the two "best" supersports bikes both have ABS. >> > >> > Best what? Best selling or best reviews? >> >> The latter, if IUC. > > As I said, I like it on my bike, but haven't tried a supersports bike > with it fitted to be able to make a judgement, it's just something I > have in my head about it. Maybe once I have ridden them I'll change my > mind. And this is really the point. Anything new is viewed (rightfully) with caution, so ABS and linked brakes weren't welcomed with open arms, but they're gaining fans all the time. Is this because they work, or because people can't be arsed turning them off or removing them altogether? I have it in my mind that those who give these new fangled idea's a fair go, tend not to have a closed mind, so they discover that maybe ABS isn't such a bad thing after all. Same with linked brakes. So what about traction control? Want it, or not? -- Beav VN 750 Zed 1000 OMF# 19 |