From: don (Calgary) on
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:14:14 -0700 (PDT), BryanUT
<nestle12(a)comcast.net> wrote:

>So this is my 5th year at the U. In previous years the motorcycle
>spots were mostly full, all kinds of bikes and scooters. This year
>they are mostly empty. Yeah we had a cold wet spring but now the
>weather is perfect (ok, a bit warm at 101f in the afternoon). I have
>no explanation.
>
>And hardly anyone waves anymore. Yeah there are fewer bikes out on my
>weekend jaunts, but the waves are still way down. Again no
>explanation.
>
>Has anyone else noticed this in their neck of the woods?

Not at all. I've covered about 15k kms so far this season and I was
thinking I am seeing more bikes on the road and meeting more riders.
Out of the 40 or so people I work with we have two new riders this
year. We have several new members in our riding club and more
involvement from existing members.

And even a scooter rider waved back at me today. <g>
From: ? on
On Jul 16, 4:37 pm, mayner <jeffmay...(a)USCNumberOne.com> wrote:

> We're year 'round here in Ventura, CA.

Well, that's true if you never get out of sight of the Pacific ocean
and you just putt up and down Ventura Highway (the 101)...

Old Man mountain (west of Lake Casitas) is the rainiest place in
Ventura county and some years it seems like it's never going to stop
raining.

Cold weather up on Hwy 33 drops snow on the road that will still be
lurking in the shady places until June.

If you ride the Santa Monica mountains, there will be landslides and
water running across the roads until late April or May.

But it isn't as bad as the Sierras where the Great Western Divide road
wasn't opened until June when the last snow drift melted...
From: Twibil on
On Jul 16, 5:17 pm, "?" <breoganmacbr...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> > We're year 'round here in Ventura, CA.
>
> Well, that's true if you never get out of sight of the Pacific ocean
> and you just putt up and down Ventura Highway (the 101)...

More garbage from non-riding Krusty.

There are thousand upon thousands of riders who ride year-round in
California, and we're not talking about "putting up and down Ventura
Highway".

If you actually rode a motorcycle you would know this as naturally as
you breath, and wouldn't have just tripped over your own stupidity
again.
From: ? on
On Jul 16, 6:05 pm, Twibil <nowayjo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> More garbage from non-riding Krusty.
>
> There are thousand upon thousands of riders who ride year-round in
> California, and we're not talking about "putting up and down Ventura
> Highway".
>
> If you actually rode a motorcycle you would know this as naturally as
> you breath, and wouldn't have just tripped over your own stupidity
> again.

If you rode north of the Inland Empire, you'd know about the weather
patterns
in Los Angeles and Ventura counties and you wouldn't make stupid
assertions
about "thousand upon thousands of riders who ride year-round."

In January and Frebruary, when all the water from the winter
rainstorms are still draining across Los Angeles county mountain
roads, there are rocks everywhere and you cannot ride fast, so you're
just wearing out your soft compound tires to no avail and you have a
big clean up job when you get your sportbike back home.

Los Angeles riders know that the winter weather is better in Riverside
and San Diego counties, but they will not spend three hours on the
freeway wearing out their expen$ive sport tires to ride down to
Palomar or Ortega.

(Palomar Mountain Road and Ortega Highway are pissant goat trails
compared to the Angeles Crest.)

The winds are firece in the mountains in March, so there's not much
point in riding out of the Los Angeles Basin.

Then, by the end of April, the winds die down and it's bugs on the
faceshield weather until Thanksgiving weekend, or in really good years
Christmas and New Years weekend on the Angeles Crest.

So, what we have in Los Angeles and Ventura counties is eight months
of good riding in an excellent year, not "year-round" riding.

Unless you call cruising along crowded surface streets or freeways
"riding."

That's not "riding" to me, it's just an exercise in frustration when I
can't use the twisty road capabilities of my sportbikes to *my*
fullest abilities.


From: saddlebag on
On Jul 16, 8:04 pm, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:14:14 -0700 (PDT), BryanUT
>
> <nestl...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> >So this is my 5th year at the U. In previous years the motorcycle
> >spots were mostly full, all kinds of bikes and scooters.  This year
> >they are mostly empty.  Yeah we had a cold wet spring but now the
> >weather is perfect (ok, a bit warm at 101f in the afternoon).  I have
> >no explanation.
>
> >And hardly anyone waves anymore. Yeah there are fewer bikes out on my
> >weekend jaunts, but the waves are still way down.  Again no
> >explanation.
>
> >Has anyone else noticed this in their neck of the woods?
>
> Not at all. I've covered about 15k kms so far this season and I was
> thinking I am seeing more bikes on the road and meeting more riders.
> Out of the 40 or so people I work with we have two new riders this
> year. We have several new members in our riding club and more
> involvement from existing members.
>
> And even a scooter rider waved back at me today. <g>

I do see more of those, not really noticing a big difference in the
number of bikes on the road, but sales must be slowing. Harleys used
to have sold signs on them as they rolled them off the truck, now many
of their bikes have been listed at the local shops since spring. I
spoke to a GoldWing rider recently who told me Honda stopped
production for a year due to slow sales. My local dealer seems to be
sitting on most of his inventory too. In fact, he has a lovely little
bumble bee T-Max scooter that's been sitting on his floor the last two
years that I'd love to take out and spank a bit. Not sure I want to
own it though. Apparently, the sport scooter market is kinda small.