From: Catman on
Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
> Looks like you're being the subject of, what's the phrase? Oh yes:
>
> "They treat software release as a beta test!"
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8304229.stm
>

While I agree with most of the sentiments, it's worth pointing out that
this article reaches the heady levels of accuracy of most of the BBC's
technology reporting.

Even a cursory amount of research by the Beeb's 'reporters' would have
revealed that this is nothing, really, to do with Snow Leopard

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/13/snow_leopard_data_eating_bug_predates_now_leopard/

Not a nice bug at all, though.

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From: Jim on
Krusty wrote:
> Mine! A "reasonable" level is zero known bugs, & a release doesn't go
> out until we get there. Sometimes that means all hands on deck for
> stupid amounts of hours if we have to hit a deadline for regulatory
> reasons, but such is life.

That's over the top, unless you're writing software for aeroplanes or
weaponry or nuclear power stations.

If you reckon you can only release your software when it has zero known
bugs in it then it just means you haven't found them all. No software
has zero defects, it's just a fact of life.
From: Catman on
Jim wrote:
> Krusty wrote:
>> Mine! A "reasonable" level is zero known bugs, & a release doesn't go
>> out until we get there. Sometimes that means all hands on deck for
>> stupid amounts of hours if we have to hit a deadline for regulatory
>> reasons, but such is life.
>
> That's over the top, unless you're writing software for aeroplanes or
> weaponry or nuclear power stations.
>
> If you reckon you can only release your software when it has zero known
> bugs in it then it just means you haven't found them all. No software
> has zero defects, it's just a fact of life.

The operative word is *known*. It's quite possible. IME however, most
companies opt for a risk / benefit analysis of the known bugs.


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From: Jim on
Catman wrote:
> Jim wrote:
>> Krusty wrote:
>>> Mine! A "reasonable" level is zero known bugs, & a release doesn't go
>>> out until we get there. Sometimes that means all hands on deck for
>>> stupid amounts of hours if we have to hit a deadline for regulatory
>>> reasons, but such is life.
>>
>> That's over the top, unless you're writing software for aeroplanes or
>> weaponry or nuclear power stations.
>>
>> If you reckon you can only release your software when it has zero known
>> bugs in it then it just means you haven't found them all. No software
>> has zero defects, it's just a fact of life.
>
> The operative word is *known*. It's quite possible. IME however, most
> companies opt for a risk / benefit analysis of the known bugs.

There is a tendency for developers not to report or discuss issues if
everything is treated as a "stop ship" bug.
From: Chris H on
Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:
> Looks like you're being the subject of, what's the phrase? Oh yes:
>
> "They treat software release as a beta test!"
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8304229.stm

"Those who use backup services including the Mac's own Time Machine can
restore their lost data"

There seems to be a lesson there somewhere.

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