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From: Catman on 14 Oct 2009 12:34 Krusty wrote: > Catman wrote: > >> Krusty wrote: >>> Catman wrote: >>> >>>> Krusty wrote: >>>>> Jim wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If you reckon you can only release your software when it has >>>>>> zero known bugs in it then it just means you haven't found >>>>>> them all. No software has zero defects, it's just a fact of >>>>>> life. >>>>> If they're "known", we obviously have found them. Bugs do of >>>>> course appear over time, but they're almost always related to >>>>> dodgy migrated data, or users doing things that nobody could >>>>> predict. >>>>> >>>> s/nobody could predict/ were not predicted ;) >>> True, but we're talking things akin to people trying to scan a >>> document by pressing it against their monitor. >>> >> <straight bat> In all honesty, that should be pretty high up the >> list > > *boggle* > > You're weird. > Or experienced in the ways of users.... -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 GTV TS 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
From: Pete Fisher on 14 Oct 2009 14:10 In communiqu� <2ohbd5ha3pe22c4r0fl531g646h6l3d0f4(a)4ax.com>, Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> cast forth these pearls of wisdom >On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:46:44 +0100, Jim <null(a)0.0.0.0> wrote: > >>Krusty wrote: >>> Mine! A "reasonable" level is zero known bugs, & a release doesn't go >>> out until we get there. Sometimes that means all hands on deck for >>> stupid amounts of hours if we have to hit a deadline for regulatory >>> reasons, but such is life. > >>That's over the top, unless you're writing software for aeroplanes or >>weaponry or nuclear power stations. > >Swot I was thinking. If my place only released stuff with zero known >defects, nothing would ever get out the door. > >Surely it's accepted that some bugs are not serious enough to hold up >a release? Any mature software delivery function makes these sorts of >decisions all the time. A mate of mine is a software tester for a major (as in world player) telecoms company. Some of the tales he tells are hilarious. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pete Fisher at Home: Peter(a)ps-fisher.demon.co.uk | | Voxan Roadster [ SPACE ! ] Yamaha WR250Z | | Gilera GFR * 2 Moto Morini 2C/375 Morini 350 "Forgotten Error" | +----------------------------------------------------------------+
From: Francis on 15 Oct 2009 09:36 On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:55:47 +0100, Phil Launchbury wrote: > You can do it by extracting the drive out of the timeport and physically > mounting it on a linux box as a HPF+ drive and jumping through some > hoops. But since I should be getting my Mac back in a couple of days I > couldn't be bothered. Or install a hackintosh. -- The Beast from The Vosges
From: Phil Launchbury on 16 Oct 2009 07:53 In article <hb78ge$h0o$1(a)williams.bete-des-vosges.org>, Francis wrote: > On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:55:47 +0100, Phil Launchbury wrote: > >> You can do it by extracting the drive out of the timeport and physically >> mounting it on a linux box as a HPF+ drive and jumping through some >> hoops. But since I should be getting my Mac back in a couple of days I >> couldn't be bothered. > > Or install a hackintosh. Well yes. I'm toying with the idea of seeing if I can get a virtual copy of leopard running on my virtualisation server. But I suspect I won't bother. I don't play as much with IT at home as I used to. Phil -- Phil Launchbury 'I speak to machines with the voice of humanity' 'Speak to the wise with the voice of insanity'
From: stephen.packer on 16 Oct 2009 15:55
vulgarandmischevious <vulgarandmischevious(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Me too. I'm running out of reasons not to ditch the last windows > machine in the house. There isn't a media centre equivalent that I want to use; so I'll probably built a Windows7 Atom based media centre at some point when the 3 year old XP based one has to be replaced. Apple TV running from a large iTunes library (more than 300 movies plus 50+ series of TV shows- around 750GB) is pretty good (all content stored redundantly on a drobo share). I certainly don't want to repeat the ripping of content and manual typing of metadata. |