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From: Hog on 15 Jun 2010 16:35 Lozzo wrote: > Higgins wrote: > >> SteveH wrote: >>> Lozzo <lozzo(a)lozzo.org.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> The GM >>>> diesels are all that bad, they've been around long enough to be >>>> sorted and I've had them in the past with no problems. >>> >>> If it's a 1.9, then it's a Fiat / Alfa JTD lump. Which is utterly >>> bomb-proof until Saab and Vauxhall get their hands on it, when it >>> appears to give issues. >>> >> >> I understand that the DMF is just as shite in FIAT[1] as it is in a >> GM. The benefit of GM is that it doesn't say FIAT on the front. >> >> [1]By any name > > So in other words, avoid the diesel Saabs because both the engines > they use are shite? > > Right, what petrol one to go for then? The 2.0T that Saab have perfected over a long period of time. That's half the point of buying a Saab. Non Aero spec is fine for general legwork and will give your lead foot 30mpg. My Aero does 27.5 -- Hog
From: SteveH on 15 Jun 2010 16:37 Hog <sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote: > > Right, what petrol one to go for then? > > The 2.0T that Saab have perfected over a long period of time. That's half > the point of buying a Saab. Non Aero spec is fine for general legwork and > will give your lead foot 30mpg. My Aero does 27.5 Correct me if I'm wrong - but, as I said in my other post - the 2.0T is a Vauxhall engine with a Turbo strapped to it - not a proper Saab lump. -- SteveH
From: Hog on 15 Jun 2010 16:42 SteveH wrote: > Hog <sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote: > >>> Right, what petrol one to go for then? >> >> The 2.0T that Saab have perfected over a long period of time. That's >> half the point of buying a Saab. Non Aero spec is fine for general >> legwork and will give your lead foot 30mpg. My Aero does 27.5 > > Correct me if I'm wrong - but, as I said in my other post - the 2.0T > is a Vauxhall engine with a Turbo strapped to it - not a proper Saab > lump. Don't know don't care. They just work. GM didn't buy out Saab until 2000 so whatever Saab were doing before will have carried into 2001 -- Hog
From: The Older Gentleman on 15 Jun 2010 16:43 SteveH <italiancar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > the Saab badge comes with a worse > reputation than anything that has come out of Italy in recent years. Harsh but maybe fair. I'd *still* like another Saab - we've had two - but it would have to be an updated version of a pre-GM Saab, not anything they've produced since. Interestingly, I received a questionnaire from Subaru last week, which suggests they're desperately trying to figure out how to re-position the brand. I thought this was a particularly telling uestion: STARTS/ Which statement most closely reflects your view of Subaru? Subaru make top quality well specified cars that are better than German competitors but priced below because they are not as well known or understood. Subaru make superbly engineered cars, better than most, if not all competitors, but priced below because they are not as well known or understood. Subaru is only for people who need off-road and 4WD vehicles and suit those people well. Subaru make cars that are not quite as good as their rivals but are priced accordingly. Subaru cars are not as good as their rivals but are unfortunately priced higher /ENDS I went for the second choice. I really admire the engineering, individuality and quality[1] of my Legacy (as does The Doctor) , but it's been replaced by what seems to be an inferior model. It feels like Saab all over again. [1] Seriously. A pokey flat four diesel engine allied to permanent four-wheel drive, nice touches like frameless doors, an utterly distinctive engine note and 'feel', and absolutely fabulous build quaity. What's not to like? -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
From: SteveH on 15 Jun 2010 16:48
The Older Gentleman <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > I really admire the engineering, individuality and quality[1] of my > Legacy (as does The Doctor) , but it's been replaced by what seems to be > an inferior model. They've done that with the Impreza, too. Used to be a distinctive saloon / 'sportwagon', now looks like a Hyundai. My dad had the original Impreza wagon - the interior was a bit generic Japanese, but other aspects had some really nice touches, like the frameless windows. I really wanted to keep it when he passed away, but had only just got a job with a company car, so had no use for it. The bloke who bought it got a bargain, as it only had 13k miles on it with full Subaru history, despite being around 14 years old. -- SteveH |