From: The Older Gentleman on
Lozzo <lozzo(a)lozzo.org.uk> wrote:

> Since when have Saab ever produced their own lump since they stopped
> making the 2-strokes? The 96s used Ford V4s and the 99s and 900s all
> used modified Dolomite engines, didn't they?


The 9000 engine was all theirs, I think. Maybe based on the Dolly lump
originally, but with twin balancer shafts that the Dolly never had.


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From: Adrian on
"Hog" <sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

> I expect they will be GM engines as found in Vectra/Astra

If it's the later 1.9TiD, then it's a Fiat lump - as in Vectra etc.
If it's the earlier 2.2TiD, then it's a non-common-rail Isuzu lump.

> feckin expensive if your trash the fuel pump with petrol.

That applies to any common-rail diesel, of course.

> Hard to go wrong with that second one if it's a kosher vehicle. 2001 car
> you want to get your head under it and check for corrosion. Rare but it
> happens.

If he's after the later 9-3ss, then it's going to be 2002-3 at the
earliest. No stories of rot on them at all, unlike the earlier NG9-3 -
they're on the old Cavalier/Calibra floorpan, with the same issues -
including cracking bulkheads around the steering.
From: Adrian on
totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying:

>> Since when have Saab ever produced their own lump since they stopped
>> making the 2-strokes? The 96s used Ford V4s and the 99s and 900s all
>> used modified Dolomite engines, didn't they?

> The 9000 engine was all theirs, I think. Maybe based on the Dolly lump
> originally, but with twin balancer shafts that the Dolly never had.

It's still the same basic block design, though, right the way up until
the just-about-dead-now 9-5 and the end of the NG9-3. The current 9-3ss
is indeed all GM engines.

And the two-smoke was a ripoff of a DKW engine design.
From: Adrian on
"Hog" <sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

> GM didn't buy out Saab until 2000

50% share from 1990, with all the dev work done under GM from then on.
From: Adrian on
"Lozzo" <lozzo(a)lozzo.org.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

> So what do Saab or Vauxhall do to this supposedly bomb-proof 1.9 engine
> to make unrelaible?

Nothing much. The only real issue is EGR valves sooting up, and that's
common to the Fiat installations, too. There's a redesigned bit that
mainly sorts it, AIUI.
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