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From: Rayvan on 11 Jun 2007 20:36 On Jun 11, 4:17 pm, "Keith Schiffner" <schis...(a)bresnan.net> wrote: > "Rayvan" <rvannul...(a)cachevision.com> wrote in message > > news:1181600812.344069.236660(a)n15g2000prd.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On Jun 10, 5:29 pm, "Keith Schiffner" <schis...(a)bresnan.net> wrote: > >> "Mark Olson" <ols...(a)tiny.invalid> wrote in message > > >>news:136nqq3ch566dc5(a)corp.supernews.com... > > >> > The Older Gentleman wrote: > >> >> Gary Walker <t...(a)swbell.net> wrote: > > >> >>> Typically, I think, many of the dry-sump bikes also have > >> >>> a separate transmission. Not that this has anything relat- > >> >>> ed to dry/wet sump choice. > > >> >>> Notice, I said many. So, don't shotgun 100's of respon- > >> >>> ses with exceptions. I know, I had one. My '73 Honda > >> >>> K3 was dry sump with no external transmission. I'm sure > >> >>> there are many others. > > >> >> No, there aren't. Not post about 1970, anyway. Think Yamaha > >> >> single-cylinder dirt bikes, the SR500 single, Honda XBR500 singles, BMW > >> >> 650 singles: all dry sump, all with unit engines. > > >> >> I can't think of a single dry-sump engine produced in the last 30 years > >> >> that has a separate transmission. In fact, I can't actually think of any > >> >> non-unit engines produced in the same time frame, though there may be > >> >> some. > > >> > Am I being thick or have you forgotten Harley-Davidson? > > >> They have yet to build a unit motor. The harely badged aerimacchi not > >> withstanding. Harley motors are separate from the transmission. Not sure if > >> they > >> share oil...wait they do by way of the oil tank. > > > Newp! Separate. > > Disregard, already pointed out that I need to read more on harely or hang out > with the mechanics...one of those years where I get nothing right not even my > own birthday. > > -- > Nefarious Necrologist 42nd Degree > Some people ride, some just like to show off their butt > jewelry once in a while. > Dum vivimus, vivamus > <:(3 )3~ <:(3 )3~ <:(3 )~ <:(3 )~- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Well, have a happy birthday anyway! :-) -- Rayvan
From: Keith Schiffner on 11 Jun 2007 20:54 "Rayvan" <rvannuland(a)cachevision.com> wrote in message news:1181608563.818657.169070(a)i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 11, 4:17 pm, "Keith Schiffner" <schis...(a)bresnan.net> wrote: >> "Rayvan" <rvannul...(a)cachevision.com> wrote in message >> >> news:1181600812.344069.236660(a)n15g2000prd.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Jun 10, 5:29 pm, "Keith Schiffner" <schis...(a)bresnan.net> wrote: >> >> "Mark Olson" <ols...(a)tiny.invalid> wrote in message >> >> >>news:136nqq3ch566dc5(a)corp.supernews.com... >> >> >> > The Older Gentleman wrote: >> >> >> Gary Walker <t...(a)swbell.net> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Typically, I think, many of the dry-sump bikes also have >> >> >>> a separate transmission. Not that this has anything relat- >> >> >>> ed to dry/wet sump choice. >> >> >> >>> Notice, I said many. So, don't shotgun 100's of respon- >> >> >>> ses with exceptions. I know, I had one. My '73 Honda >> >> >>> K3 was dry sump with no external transmission. I'm sure >> >> >>> there are many others. >> >> >> >> No, there aren't. Not post about 1970, anyway. Think Yamaha >> >> >> single-cylinder dirt bikes, the SR500 single, Honda XBR500 singles, BMW >> >> >> 650 singles: all dry sump, all with unit engines. >> >> >> >> I can't think of a single dry-sump engine produced in the last 30 years >> >> >> that has a separate transmission. In fact, I can't actually think of >> >> >> any >> >> >> non-unit engines produced in the same time frame, though there may be >> >> >> some. >> >> >> > Am I being thick or have you forgotten Harley-Davidson? >> >> >> They have yet to build a unit motor. The harely badged aerimacchi not >> >> withstanding. Harley motors are separate from the transmission. Not sure >> >> if >> >> they >> >> share oil...wait they do by way of the oil tank. >> >> > Newp! Separate. >> >> Disregard, already pointed out that I need to read more on harely or hang out >> with the mechanics...one of those years where I get nothing right not even my >> own birthday. >> >> -- >> Nefarious Necrologist 42nd Degree >> Some people ride, some just like to show off their butt >> jewelry once in a while. >> Dum vivimus, vivamus >> <:(3 )3~ <:(3 )3~ <:(3 )~ <:(3 )~- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Well, have a happy birthday anyway! :-) That was almost 4 1/2 months ago and I thought it was on a Tuesday...nooooo it was a Wednesday. 8^\ Oh well I only noticed anyway when SWMBO'd baked a cake. What ever just another so called holiday I tend to ignore.
From: The Older Gentleman on 12 Jun 2007 02:15
Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsch1216128(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Jun 11, 2:10 pm, chateau.murray.takethis...(a)dsl.pipex.com (The > Older Gentleman) wrote: > > Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsch1216...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > On Jun 10, 9:42 am, chateau.murray.takethis...(a)dsl.pipex.com (The > > > Older Gentleman) wrote: . In fact, I can't actually think of any > > > > > > non-unit engines produced in the same time frame, though there may be > > > > > > some. > > > > > > > Am I being thick or have you forgotten Harley-Davidson? > > > > > > Indeed I have. Mea maxima culpa. But they're not real bikes anyway. > > > > > > BMW K1100LT > > > > > And BMW ? > > > > Wet sump. Lovely deep sump hanging under the engine with a nice little > > sight glass. > > You meant engine and sump as a unit rather than engine and tranny ? > > My mistake. Yup: I said "I can't think of a single dry-sump engine produced in the last 30 years that has a separate transmission.". And the BMW, of course, is wet sump. (And yes, I forgot Harleys!) -- BMW K1100LT 750SS CB400F CD250 SL125 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3 BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells..... |