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From: Twibil on 9 Dec 2009 02:52 On Dec 8, 11:15 pm, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote: > <.p.jm.(a)see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote: > > Which is only ~ > > 150 years, since the invention of the thermometer. > > Um, no. They've only been keeping records for about that long. Galileo > is generally credited with inventing the thermometer, rather more than > 150 years ago. Besides which, ice cores taken from glaciers/ice caps around the world provide an excellent extrapolation of world-wide temperature variations that can extend up to a million years back in time.
From: TOG on 9 Dec 2009 04:35 On 9 Dec, 07:52, Twibil <nowayjo...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 8, 11:15 pm, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older > > Gentleman) wrote: > > <.p.jm.(a)see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote: > > > Which is only ~ > > > 150 years, since the invention of the thermometer. > > > Um, no. They've only been keeping records for about that long. Galileo > > is generally credited with inventing the thermometer, rather more than > > 150 years ago. > > Besides which, ice cores taken from glaciers/ice caps around the world > provide an excellent extrapolation of world-wide temperature > variations that can extend up to a million years back in time. True. Any variation over a decade is statistically insignificant (we did this before, didn't we?) but the latest UN data rather puts the kybosh on anyone saying that the last decade has got cooler. Unless you're in North America, of course.
From: .p.jm. on 9 Dec 2009 07:35 On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 07:15:30 +0000, totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote: ><.p.jm.(a)see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote: > >> Which is only ~ >> 150 years, since the invention of the thermometer. > >Um, no. They've only been keeping records for about that long. Galileo >is generally credited with inventing the thermometer, rather more than >150 years ago. Whatevers :-) -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo online at www.pmilligan.net/palm/ Free 'People finder' program now at www.pmilligan.net/finder.htm
From: .p.jm. on 9 Dec 2009 07:37 On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 01:35:32 -0800 (PST), "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >On 9 Dec, 07:52, Twibil <nowayjo...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Dec 8, 11:15�pm, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older >> >> Gentleman) wrote: >> > <.p.jm.(a)see_my_sig_for_address.com> wrote: >> > > Which is only ~ >> > > 150 years, since the invention of the thermometer. � >> >> > Um, no. They've only been keeping records for about that long. Galileo >> > is generally credited with inventing the thermometer, rather more than >> > 150 years ago. >> >> Besides which, ice cores taken from glaciers/ice caps around the world >> provide an excellent extrapolation of world-wide temperature >> variations that can extend up to a million years back in time. > >True. Any variation over a decade is statistically insignificant (we >did this before, didn't we?) but the latest UN data rather puts the >kybosh on anyone saying that the last decade has got cooler. Unless >you're in North America, of course. And you TRUST 'UN data' at this point in time ???? -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo online at www.pmilligan.net/palm/ Free 'People finder' program now at www.pmilligan.net/finder.htm
From: don (Calgary) on 9 Dec 2009 08:37
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 07:15:30 +0000, totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote: >don (Calgary) <hd.flhr(a)telus.net> wrote: > >> >> Not much new in that article. >> >> What we have seen in the past decade is a plateau in the rising >> temperature and in fact very slight cooling. > >Not what it says in the article, mind. > >"The first decade of this century is "by far" the warmest since >instrumental records began" But what it doesn't say is since 1998 the rise in temperatures stopped and in fact dropped slightly. This is not inconsistent with also saying the last decade is the warmest since instrumental records began. It is warm, but against all of the models, temperatures plateaued and dropped slightly from 98 to 2008. I will repeat the quote, as reported, from Kevin E. Trenberth, head of the Climate Analysis Section at the National Center for Atmospheric Research, �The fact is we can�t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can�t.� A travesty! That is a strong word. So despite the "polluters" of the world pumping increasing amounts of greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere, temperatures dropped slightly over the last ten years. Why? The fact even global warming advocates like Mr. Trenberth do not know is a little disconcerting. Especially when these same advocates are attempting to siphon hundreds of billions of dollars from our economies, to be given to developing countries, all in the name of Global Warming. It appears it is less about the science than it is about a cash grab. And that is a travesty. |