From: S'mee on
On Jul 27, 5:43 am, "ian field" <gangprobing.al...(a)ntlworld.com>
wrote:
>
> See - Krust isn't a *TOTAL* waste of space after all.

Nope you'd be wrong. It's better off if he left, even if it got
quieter. Let's put it this way, Krusty is so useless that he wouldn't
even make good compost or worm food...hell his ashes wouldn't even
make good filler of a sidewalk or septic tank!
From: S'mee on
On Jul 27, 6:52 am, "`" <breoganmacbr...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 27, 4:43 am, "ian field" <gangprobing.al...(a)ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
>
> > See - Krust isn't a *TOTAL* waste of space after all.
>
> And I support the entire adult diaper industry all by myself,
> according to Sweet S'meetard...

Hey I just emailed depends...your last check to them bounced.
From: mike on
mike wrote:
> Mark Olson wrote:
>> mike wrote:
>>> '83 Honda VT500C Shadow.
>>>
>>> IN hot weather, the battery goes dry in about 500 miles.
>>> To put in water, I have to take off the seat, remove the battery,
>>> fill it, reverse the process. PITA.
>>>
>>> It's my garage sale bike, so it does sit idling a lot while
>>> I'm browsing. The battery does get a workout.
>>
>> There's absolutely no reason to leave your bike running while
>> you spend time at garage sales.
>
> Sounds like you haven't done the math.
> Start a bike 50 times a day and something that was designed to
> last for many years doesn't last nearly that long.
>
>
> But that is irrelevant to
>> the problem you describe, other than it may expose your battery
>> to unnecessary amounts of heat.
>>
>>> Anything I can do to reduce the water loss or make it easier to fill?
>>> Clever fill gadget? Getting water to it ain't hard. It's telling
>>> when to stop adding water that's hard.
>>
>> You're trying to fix the wrong problem.
>>
>>> Regulator is at 14.39V. Well within
>>> the 15V max stated in the manual.
>>> I'd crank it down a little if I had the option.
>>
>> The battery is being overcharged. Either the regulator is
>> defective or the sense line (common on Hondas) is sensing
>> the wrong voltage, causing the regulator to set the output
>> voltage of the alternator too high. Fix the connection
>> problem(s) or replace the regulator. Simply replacing the
>> regulator won't fix the problem if it's a connection issue.
>>
>> I've seen this exact problem on at least two early 80s
>> Hondas and fixed them both the same way.
>
> Good call.
> Rerouting the sense line did drop the voltage.
> Should know in a week if it fixes it.
> All I gotta do is remember to charge it a few times
> over the winter.
>
> My jaw is getting tired from all the bubble gum I'm
> chewing to keep this thing patched up.
> If I could find a 500cc water-cooled, shaft-drive
> bike, I'd buy a new one. they don't make 'em
> like they used to.
>
> thanks, mike
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The problem is that
>> the Kelvin sense wire goes through the ignition switch, which
>> has a fair amount of voltage drop through multiple connections
>> on an older bike with oxidized connections. So the regulator sense
>> line is seeing about 1V less than what the battery sees. The
>> fix is to either clean and/or replace all the tired connections
>> or re-route the sense line directly to the battery. If you
>> choose the latter option you need to ensure the sense line
>> doesn't draw excess current with the bike not running or it
>> can drain the battery quickly. In both cases I verified this
>> with a sensitive milliammeter before committing to the fix.
>>
>>


400 miles later and the battery is still full of water.
Rerouting the sense line seems to have fixed it.
Thanks for the suggestion.
mike
From: The Older Gentleman on
mike <spamme0(a)go.com> wrote:

> 400 miles later and the battery is still full of water.
> Rerouting the sense line seems to have fixed it.
> Thanks for the suggestion.

Beers all round on Mike, then.


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From: ian field on

"The Older Gentleman" <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> mike <spamme0(a)go.com> wrote:
>
>> 400 miles later and the battery is still full of water.
>> Rerouting the sense line seems to have fixed it.
>> Thanks for the suggestion.
>
> Beers all round on Mike, then.

Mine's a very large JD (as in leave the bottle).