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From: ian field on 26 Jul 2010 17:14 "`" <breoganmacbrath(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:6c89ef99-faa9-484a-8802-a938b24100ab(a)v6g2000prd.googlegroups.com... On Jul 26, 6:49 am, Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsch1216...(a)aol.com> wrote: > In normal service, batteries lose only water, not electrolyte > or acid or anything else you want to call it. The only reason > for adding anything other than water would be a spill. Wrong. All you have to do is look at the clear plastic vent tube to observe the little droplets of sulfuric acid condensed on the inside. ------------------------------------------------------ For you maybe, for most other people that's fortunately a rare occurence - even when they get a catastrophic regulator failure.
From: Rob Kleinschmidt on 26 Jul 2010 18:39 On Jul 26, 12:40 pm, "`" <breoganmacbr...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jul 26, 6:49 am, Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsch1216...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > In normal service, batteries lose only water, not electrolyte > > or acid or anything else you want to call it. The only reason > > for adding anything other than water would be a spill. > > Wrong. All you have to do is look at the clear plastic vent tube to > observe the > little droplets of sulfuric acid condensed on the inside. Nice reference here: (note the word "basics") http://www.progressivedyn.com/battery_basics.html During the recharging process as electricity flows through the water portion of the electrolyte and water, (H2O) is converted into its original elements, hydrogen and oxygen. These gasses are very flammable and the reason your RV or Marine batteries must be vented outside. Gassing causes water loss and therefore lead acid batteries need to have water added periodically. And: Do I ever need to add acid to my battery? Under normal operating conditions, you never need to add acid. Only distilled or deionized water should be added to achieve the recommended electrolyte levels. See also http://www.trojanbattery.com/Tech-Support/FAQ/Maintenance.aspx > > In this case, your advice to an inexperienced newby that > > he should add electrolyte is bad to the point of being > > dangerous. > > "Dangerous"? > > In what way? Sulfuric acid is a dangerous compound and ought to be handled only when wearing protective eyewear. Way different than distilled water. > Shame and guilt are bogus emotions that I don't indulge in. Damn straight you're shameless. So please describe the procedures you use when you periodically added acid to your >>>motorcycle<<< batteries.
From: The Older Gentleman on 26 Jul 2010 19:24 Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsch1216128(a)aol.com> wrote: > Under normal operating conditions, you never need to add > acid. Only distilled or deionized water should be added to > achieve the recommended electrolyte levels. Decades ago, a friend had a Cossack Ural outfit and the owner's manual (beautifully translated into English, by the way) worked on the basis that when your Ural broke down, which it would, you were mostly on your own[1]. So it advised to top up with distilled water. However, if no distilled water was available you could, in an emergency, use "melted snow". "But not," the manual solemnly warned, "from a tin roof". [1] For something really major[2], like replacing the main bearings, you were advised to contact your nearest Ural dealer. However, if there was no dealer within easy reach, you were counselled to "consult your local blacksmith". Honest. [2] The toolkit was probably the biggest and best I've ever seen, so coild cope with most things. -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Triumph Street Triple Honda CB400F Suzuki TS250 Suzuki GN250 chateaudotmurrayatidnetdotcom Nothing damages a machine more than an ignoramus with a manual, a can-do attitude and a set of cheap tools
From: Beauregard T. Shagnasty on 26 Jul 2010 19:28 ian field wrote: > Krusty the Morpher wrote: >> Wrong. All you have to do is look at the clear plastic vent tube to >> observe the little droplets of sulfuric acid condensed on the >> inside. > > For you maybe, for most other people that's fortunately a rare > occurence - even when they get a catastrophic regulator failure. I'm wondering how Krusty the Krud can tell the difference between a droplet of water and a droplet of sulfuric acid, just by looking at it. Strike seven. He's out! -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul
From: Larry Blanchard on 26 Jul 2010 19:28
The net result of all of the back and forth on this subject is that anyone thinking of trying to get useful advice on this group has given up in disgust. If the 2 or 3 or 4 of you must keep it up, how about taking it to email? -- Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw |