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From: Vito on 19 Apr 2010 07:49 don (Calgary) wrote: >> I would say my four wheel vehicle carbon footprint is considerable >> less than average. It would even meet the Kyoto guideline of 8% below >> my 1990 level. Ah ha! So you contributed to this cold winter?? Canada stands to benefit from global warming. You should be helping it .... :)
From: TOG on 20 Apr 2010 05:01 On 20 Apr, 00:06, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote: Personally I am proud we will not let our Bow or Elbow > Rivers end up looking like the Thames. > Heh. I missed this. You obviously haven't looked at it recently, but are drawing conclusions based on reports made a hundred years ago. Anyway, for your benefit; "The Thames through London is tidal and consequently twice a day the tide moves up and down the river. This movement causes the mud on the river bed to be continually stirred up giving the river its dirty brown and murky appearance as the silt becomes suspended in the water. But, contrary to popular belief, the river is not polluted. The water quality is very good and in fact the tidal Thames is now acknowledged to be one of the cleanest metropolitan rivers in the world." "Not only have the Salmon returned: in the last 25 years some 120 species of fish have been recorded in the River Thames including 20 species of freshwater fish, 14 euryhaline fish (fish that can tolerate both salt and fresh water) and 86 marine fish. These include Smelt (perhaps the most unusual and internationally recognised as rare), Bass, Twaite Shad, Sea Lamprey and Allis Shad all of which need a clean river for part of their life cycle. Their presence in the River is of great ecological value. "Furthermore, the tidal Thames supports over 350 species of invertebrates, 38 species of bird and 300 plant species. "And over the last few years, seals have been spotted fairly frequently swimming up the Thames through central London and up as far as Richmond and Teddington. Again, it is thought that the cleaner waters are encouraging the seals up the river." Taken from the official Thames website: http://www.the-river-thames.co.uk/environ.htm
From: Bob Mann on 19 Apr 2010 09:04 On Apr 19, 6:49 am, "Vito" <v...(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote: > don (Calgary) wrote: > >> I would say my four wheel vehicle carbon footprint is considerable > >> less than average. It would even meet the Kyoto guideline of 8% below > >> my 1990 level. > > Ah ha! So you contributed to this cold winter?? Canada stands to benefit > from global warming. You should be helping it .... :) Cold? This has been one of the warmest winters on record. We've been snow free for a month when we would normally just be getting out of it now. Bob
From: TOG on 19 Apr 2010 09:35 On 19 Apr, 14:04, Bob Mann <bobm...(a)mts.net> wrote: > On Apr 19, 6:49 am, "Vito" <v...(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote: > > > don (Calgary) wrote: > > >> I would say my four wheel vehicle carbon footprint is considerable > > >> less than average. It would even meet the Kyoto guideline of 8% below > > >> my 1990 level. > > > Ah ha! So you contributed to this cold winter?? Canada stands to benefit > > from global warming. You should be helping it .... :) > > Cold? > This has been one of the warmest winters on record. > We've been snow free for a month when we would normally just be > getting out of it now. > Whereas northern Europe has had the coldest winter for a generation (not, I acknowledge, that our winters are as impressive as yours...) Go figure.
From: don (Calgary) on 20 Apr 2010 08:47
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 02:01:54 -0700 (PDT), "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >On 20 Apr, 00:06, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > Personally I am proud we will not let our Bow or Elbow >> Rivers end up looking like the Thames. >> >Heh. I missed this. You obviously haven't looked at it recently, but >are drawing conclusions based on reports made a hundred years ago. > >Anyway, for your benefit; > >"The Thames through London is tidal and consequently twice a day the >tide moves up and down the river. This movement causes the mud on the >river bed to be continually stirred up giving the river its �dirty� >brown and murky appearance as the silt becomes suspended in the water. >But, contrary to popular belief, the river is not polluted. The water >quality is very good and in fact the tidal Thames is now acknowledged >to be one of the cleanest metropolitan rivers in the world." > >"Not only have the Salmon returned: in the last 25 years some 120 >species of fish have been recorded in the River Thames including 20 >species of freshwater fish, 14 euryhaline fish (fish that can tolerate >both salt and fresh water) and 86 marine fish. These include Smelt >(perhaps the most unusual and internationally recognised as rare), >Bass, Twaite Shad, Sea Lamprey and Allis Shad all of which need a >clean river for part of their life cycle. Their presence in the River >is of great ecological value. > >"Furthermore, the tidal Thames supports over 350 species of >invertebrates, 38 species of bird and 300 plant species. > >"And over the last few years, seals have been spotted fairly >frequently swimming up the Thames through central London and up as far >as Richmond and Teddington. Again, it is thought that the cleaner >waters are encouraging the seals up the river." > >Taken from the official Thames website: http://www.the-river-thames.co.uk/environ.htm I am well aware of the improvements in the Thames and I applaud the efforts of those responsible. Having an appreciation of your attitude to rivers and pollution I am confident you had little to do with it. We choose not to let our rivers degrade to the point extraordinary measures are required to rehabilitate them to what they once were. We recognize what we have and we appreciate the value of it. Just yesterday I was walking along on of my projects and was amazed by the incredible beauty of a pair of Osprey. Being able to view these raptors in flight, in a natural habitat, in the middle of a decent sized city is the only justification I need for the measures we have in place to preserve and protect their habitat. With respect to the Thames I am also aware significant and serious fish kllls are still occurring. Your government reacts with significant fines to the responsible party, which is appropriate. Once again we choose to be more proactive and have in place procedures we hope will head off those kinds of events before they happen. |