From: don (Calgary) on
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:21:21 -0700, sean_q_ <nospam(a)no.spam> wrote:

> > which metric cruiser sounds most like a Harley?
>
>When I asked for an impartial answer to this question from
>a bike salesman I've been dealing with for several years,
>he replied "Yamaha Roadstar 1600. 48 degree pushrod V-twin."
>
>Naturally it was mere coincidence that he worked
>at a Yamaha dealership.
>
I am sure it is part of their canned sales presentation.

As much as I like Yamaha products, the Roadstar is one bike I would
not want to own. I like the looks of its classic V-Twin cruiser style,
but it just doesn't do anything particularly well, except vibrate.
Last weekend I had a couple of Roadstar guys tell me they didn't like
the Road King because it was too smooth. lol.
From: S'mee on
On Jul 14, 2:38 pm, sean_q_ <nos...(a)no.spam> wrote:

It bears repeating because it is so true "the cheapest way to get that
harley sound is with two clothes pins and two balloons"
From: The Older Gentleman on
don (Calgary) <hd.flhr(a)telus.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:21:21 -0700, sean_q_ <nospam(a)no.spam> wrote:
>
> > > which metric cruiser sounds most like a Harley?
> >
> >When I asked for an impartial answer to this question from
> >a bike salesman I've been dealing with for several years,
> >he replied "Yamaha Roadstar 1600. 48 degree pushrod V-twin."
> >
> >Naturally it was mere coincidence that he worked
> >at a Yamaha dealership.
> >
> I am sure it is part of their canned sales presentation.

I'm sure you do. You really ought to stop theorising and inventing facts
to support your pre-conceived ideas. It just doesn't work.
>
> As much as I like Yamaha products, the Roadstar is one bike I would
> not want to own. I like the looks of its classic V-Twin cruiser style,
> but it just doesn't do anything particularly well, except vibrate.
> Last weekend I had a couple of Roadstar guys tell me they didn't like
> the Road King because it was too smooth. lol.

I wouldn't want either. A Glide, though....


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From: brad herschel on
Don't you think trying to duplicate another exhaust is sort of "ah,
funny?"
From: Road Glidin' Don on
On Jul 15, 7:03 pm, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:33:35 -0700 (PDT), saddlebag
>
>
>
>
>
> <saddle...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >On Jul 14, 11:29 pm, "Road Glidin' Don" <d.lan...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Jul 14, 5:25 pm, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote:
>
> >> > On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 22:09:12 +0100, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk
>
> >> > (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
> >> > >sean_q_ <nos...(a)no.spam> wrote:
>
> >> > >> If not the Kwak, which metric cruiser sounds most like a Harley?
>
> >> > >Some Yamaha 1700 thing I rode a couple of years ago sounded identical.
> >> > >45 degree V-twin, and even with pushrods.
>
> >> > If you are thinking about the 1700 Roadstar, not even close.  Try as
> >> > they might to make them sound like Harleys, Roadstar owners just
> >> > succeed in making their bikes louder.
>
> >> Exactly.  They just sound like a baloney-making machine.
>
> >The Roadstar rumbles I posted have that potato...I'm going to
> >stall...potato, potato sound that every other de-tuned, de-baffled
> >Harley I've ever heard had. Of course, when the idle is properly set,
> >they sound just about like every other air cooled twin out there:
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z55sW645ybw
>
> >I'd bet if I mixed up the sounds and had people here guess, the
> >results would come out 50/50.
>
> And I'd wager, IRL I could pick out the Harley well over 90% of the
> time and if they all had stock pipes I'd bet my success rate would be
> near perfect.

You're probably low-balling with the 90% figure. I've never heard a
metric bike that sounded even anywhere close, no matter what was done
to it. The louder they get, the worse (and hollower) they sound.
100% correct identification could be guaranteed.

<snip>
> I can't figure out why people obsess over trying to emulate the
> "Harley Sound".
>
> What I don't like are straight non baffled pipes. To my ear they are
> just plain obnoxious and IMHO too many people go to them in order to
> make their bike sound like a Harley

Well, for reasons aside from self-consciousness, I think it would be
different. Occasionally, when working on my bikes and starting them
without the mufflers attached... Very cool. People also get a kick
out of the spectacle and sound at drag races for the same reason...