Budget Harley sound
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From: saddlebag on 16 Jul 2010 22:16 On Jul 16, 9:59 pm, "Road Glidin' Don" <d.lan...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 15, 7:03 pm, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:33:35 -0700 (PDT), saddlebag > > > <saddle...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > >On Jul 14, 11:29 pm, "Road Glidin' Don" <d.lan...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> On Jul 14, 5:25 pm, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > >> > On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 22:09:12 +0100, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk > > > >> > (The Older Gentleman) wrote: > > >> > >sean_q_ <nos...(a)no.spam> wrote: > > > >> > >> If not the Kwak, which metric cruiser sounds most like a Harley? > > > >> > >Some Yamaha 1700 thing I rode a couple of years ago sounded identical. > > >> > >45 degree V-twin, and even with pushrods. > > > >> > If you are thinking about the 1700 Roadstar, not even close. Try as > > >> > they might to make them sound like Harleys, Roadstar owners just > > >> > succeed in making their bikes louder. > > > >> Exactly. They just sound like a baloney-making machine. > > > >The Roadstar rumbles I posted have that potato...I'm going to > > >stall...potato, potato sound that every other de-tuned, de-baffled > > >Harley I've ever heard had. Of course, when the idle is properly set, > > >they sound just about like every other air cooled twin out there: > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z55sW645ybw > > > >I'd bet if I mixed up the sounds and had people here guess, the > > >results would come out 50/50. > > > And I'd wager, IRL I could pick out the Harley well over 90% of the > > time and if they all had stock pipes I'd bet my success rate would be > > near perfect. > > You're probably low-balling with the 90% figure. I've never heard a > metric bike that sounded even anywhere close, no matter what was done > to it. The louder they get, the worse (and hollower) they sound. > 100% correct identification could be guaranteed. > > <snip> > > > I can't figure out why people obsess over trying to emulate the > > "Harley Sound". > > > What I don't like are straight non baffled pipes. To my ear they are > > just plain obnoxious and IMHO too many people go to them in order to > > make their bike sound like a Harley > > Well, for reasons aside from self-consciousness, I think it would be > different. Occasionally, when working on my bikes and starting them > without the mufflers attached... Very cool. People also get a kick > out of the spectacle and sound at drag races for the same reason... Speak into the horn... I read the other day that ear buds were thought to contribute to hearing loss. Supposedly, it is because of the proximity to the ear drum. I tell you what, after decades of playing electric guitar, attending rock concerts, listening to obnoxious bikes in parking lots and on dynos, and working in a factory with high hp motors spinning at 12-27k rpm all day long, if I go deaf from listening to the jackass blabberings on CNBC thru my earbuds on my ride to work, I'm calling the pearly gates and having a talk with the guy who designed these damn audio sensors of ours!
From: The Older Gentleman on 17 Jul 2010 03:56 brad herschel <bradherschel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Don't you think trying to duplicate another exhaust is sort of "ah, > funny?" When you put it like that, it is a bit silly, yes :-) Far better to try and duplicate a jet fighter, as Honda supposedly did when developing the CBX. (Thy shoved microphones through the wire fence surrounding an air base in Japan and recorded F4 Phantoms on take-off). -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
From: Beav on 18 Jul 2010 06:46 "don (Calgary)" <hd.flhr(a)telus.net> wrote in message news:qdbv36l5bmj7v12krssqhjr3mor1kiu56v(a)4ax.com... > On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:33:35 -0700 (PDT), saddlebag > <saddlebag(a)aol.com> wrote: > >>On Jul 14, 11:29 pm, "Road Glidin' Don" <d.lan...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Jul 14, 5:25 pm, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote: >>> >>> > On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 22:09:12 +0100, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk >>> >>> > (The Older Gentleman) wrote: >>> > >sean_q_ <nos...(a)no.spam> wrote: >>> >>> > >> If not the Kwak, which metric cruiser sounds most like a Harley? >>> >>> > >Some Yamaha 1700 thing I rode a couple of years ago sounded >>> > >identical. >>> > >45 degree V-twin, and even with pushrods. >>> >>> > If you are thinking about the 1700 Roadstar, not even close. Try as >>> > they might to make them sound like Harleys, Roadstar owners just >>> > succeed in making their bikes louder. >>> >>> Exactly. They just sound like a baloney-making machine. >> >>The Roadstar rumbles I posted have that potato...I'm going to >>stall...potato, potato sound that every other de-tuned, de-baffled >>Harley I've ever heard had. Of course, when the idle is properly set, >>they sound just about like every other air cooled twin out there: >> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z55sW645ybw >> >>I'd bet if I mixed up the sounds and had people here guess, the >>results would come out 50/50. > > And I'd wager, IRL I could pick out the Harley well over 90% of the > time and if they all had stock pipes I'd bet my success rate would be > near perfect. I think most people who like the sound of bikes (almost any bike) would be able to tell a Harley from any other. > > Now before folks take this the wrong way (read before Neil starts > tossing his rattle again) I like the sound of a lot of bikes. In fact > most bikes. I am especially pleased with the sound of my Venture, > which sounds nothing like a Harley. I have heard some of Yamahas 1700 > and 1900 V-twins that have a very pleasing note. I love the sound of a Trumper Triple. Any of them. And Ducatis with Termignoni pipes. > > I can't figure out why people obsess over trying to emulate the > "Harley Sound". They think it makes them look, feel and sound cool. > > What I don't like are straight non baffled pipes. To my ear they are > just plain obnoxious and IMHO too many people go to them in order to > make their bike sound like a Harley And they fails to do that. -- Beav
From: don (Calgary) on 18 Jul 2010 10:24 On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:46:36 +0100, "Beav" <beavis.original(a)ntlwoxorld.com> wrote: > >> Now before folks take this the wrong way (read before Neil starts >> tossing his rattle again) I like the sound of a lot of bikes. In fact >> most bikes. I am especially pleased with the sound of my Venture, >> which sounds nothing like a Harley. I have heard some of Yamahas 1700 >> and 1900 V-twins that have a very pleasing note. > >I love the sound of a Trumper Triple. Any of them. And Ducatis with >Termignoni pipes. Triples in general sound good to me. I had a Yamaha 750 triple and it had a very distinctive growl. I think the only bike I owned, I didn't like the sound was my Suzuki X6 Hustler. I think you called them "Super Six" over there. It was a fun and fast bike, but I could never get comfortable with that two stroke sound.
From: BrianNZ on 19 Jul 2010 01:37
Beav wrote: > > > "don (Calgary)" <hd.flhr(a)telus.net> wrote in message > news:qdbv36l5bmj7v12krssqhjr3mor1kiu56v(a)4ax.com... >> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:33:35 -0700 (PDT), saddlebag >> <saddlebag(a)aol.com> wrote: >> >>> On Jul 14, 11:29 pm, "Road Glidin' Don" <d.lan...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Jul 14, 5:25 pm, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> > On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 22:09:12 +0100, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk >>>> >>>> > (The Older Gentleman) wrote: >>>> > >sean_q_ <nos...(a)no.spam> wrote: >>>> >>>> > >> If not the Kwak, which metric cruiser sounds most like a Harley? >>>> >>>> > >Some Yamaha 1700 thing I rode a couple of years ago sounded > >>>> >identical. >>>> > >45 degree V-twin, and even with pushrods. >>>> >>>> > If you are thinking about the 1700 Roadstar, not even close. Try as >>>> > they might to make them sound like Harleys, Roadstar owners just >>>> > succeed in making their bikes louder. >>>> >>>> Exactly. They just sound like a baloney-making machine. >>> >>> The Roadstar rumbles I posted have that potato...I'm going to >>> stall...potato, potato sound that every other de-tuned, de-baffled >>> Harley I've ever heard had. Of course, when the idle is properly set, >>> they sound just about like every other air cooled twin out there: >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z55sW645ybw >>> >>> I'd bet if I mixed up the sounds and had people here guess, the >>> results would come out 50/50. >> >> And I'd wager, IRL I could pick out the Harley well over 90% of the >> time and if they all had stock pipes I'd bet my success rate would be >> near perfect. > > I think most people who like the sound of bikes (almost any bike) would > be able to tell a Harley from any other. >> >> Now before folks take this the wrong way (read before Neil starts >> tossing his rattle again) I like the sound of a lot of bikes. In fact >> most bikes. I am especially pleased with the sound of my Venture, >> which sounds nothing like a Harley. I have heard some of Yamahas 1700 >> and 1900 V-twins that have a very pleasing note. > > I love the sound of a Trumper Triple. Any of them. And Ducatis with > Termignoni pipes. >> The noise police aren't quite here yet and race pipes are the go. Mistral for the Guzzi, Tig-Craft for the Aprilia, Akrapovics for the KTM.....and Conti's for the Ducati!! >> I can't figure out why people obsess over trying to emulate the >> "Harley Sound". > > They think it makes them look, feel and sound cool. >> >> What I don't like are straight non baffled pipes. To my ear they are >> just plain obnoxious and IMHO too many people go to them in order to >> make their bike sound like a Harley > > And they fails to do that. > |