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From: Hog on 1 Jul 2010 07:14 Andy Bonwick <nospam(a)bonwick.me.uk> wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:01:36 +0100, "Hog" >> Johnson certainly insisted America was not at war with NV for the >> period up to the Tet offensive. Indeed looking it up since Congress >> never declared a state of war. It was a "Police Action". >> > I'm sure I can find a lot more references to the Vietnam _War_ than > you can to the Vietnam _Police Action_ but I'll be more than happy to > admit I'm wrong if you provide evidence to prove otherwise. FFS how hard is it to get the head around the observation, which was the US Government never declared a state of war. Congress refused to vote it so. You can call it a sunday school picnic if you like. Much like Westminster refused to to call the war with the IRA a war. And then my further observation was in both cases (IMHO) it affected how the Police Action was dealt with. -- Hog
From: Berf on 1 Jul 2010 07:19 CT wrote > > Simon S-B wrote: > > > > Bob Hope did not play police actions, but he did play Vietnam, ergo > > > it was a war. > > > > > > Anyone who says otherwise is a thick-o. > > > > > > Love it! The only problem is now who has taken his role as the > > war-o-meter? > > In the UK it always used to be Kate Adie. > > Not sure now though... The german girls were better. I saw them in the stands.
From: Hog on 1 Jul 2010 07:27 Lozzo <lozzo(a)lozzo.org.uk> wrote: > steve auvache wrote: > >> Personally I figured something was not right about it all when Harold >> Wilson one day announced that the gummint was planning on >> reintroducing national service so that we too could join in the >> slaughter and do our bit for democracy and freedom and contribute >> thousands of British lives to the non war effort. > > My dad went to Vietnam as an observer when we lived in Singapore, this > was sometime between Jan 1966 and Dec 1969. He came home after 6 > months out there and hasn't spoken much about it since. He has told > me he was amazed the war lasted so long, because the US forces were > so badly trained, had totally the wrong attitude and were so > unprofessional in everything they did. His report detailed all of > this and was tossed out as being politically inflammatory. The > Vietnam episode was what made him decide to leave altogether when his > 22 years were up - he had thought about signing on for another 9. Well ya certainly can't fault his powers of observation. I've always wondered how a straight fight in Europe between the Germans and the Yanks, without any British involvement, would have gone. 1:0 I reckon. -- Hog
From: Hog on 1 Jul 2010 07:33 mower man <nospam(a)f2s.com> wrote: > the USA. Nixon was far more involved at the time than the woman I > would like to have had a state funeral many years ago. (In 1984 after > the failed IRA bombing to be exact. Why didn't you get it right, > boys?) So there we have it. You think that a bunch of deranged (pseudo marxist) terrorists killing members of the elected British Government is a good thing. I was right, you are a window licking idiot. -- Hog
From: M J Carley on 1 Jul 2010 08:03
In the referenced article, "Hog" <sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> writes: >So there we have it. You think that a bunch of deranged (pseudo >marxist) terrorists killing members of the elected British Government >is a good thing. Not fair: the Provos had split because they objected to Sticky Marxism. The (pseudo-) Marxists mostly shot each other. -- Si deve tornare alle basi: Marx ed i Clash. Michael Carley: http://people.bath.ac.uk/ensmjc/ |