High-Visibility Vest for Motorcycling?
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From: T.J. Higgins on 5 Aug 2010 10:27 In article <eNz6o.62181$gM.5776(a)hurricane>, Beav wrote: > > >"tomorrow(a)erols.com" <tomorrowaterolsdotcom(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:4a20a623-e747-40e0-a322- >> Quite frankly, I don't know of any studies that show whether high- >> visibility gear for motorcyclists works or doesn't. High visibility >> colors have been proven to increase visibility and reduce accidents >> for emergency response vehicles, though. Highways workers wear hi-viz >> yellow for a reason. > >And that's one of the problems. Too many people in too many jobs are wearing >"hi-viz" shite and it's becoming less noticable by the day. Which is also the reason why I dislike the DRL feature (daytime running lights) of cars. -- TJH tjhiggin.at.hiwaay.dot.net
From: Vito on 5 Aug 2010 12:20 tomorrow(a)erols.com wrote: > On Aug 5, 7:33 am, "Vito" <v...(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote: >> Stephen! wrote: >>>> dusty <bythebay...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in >>>> news:nhbh56dvrtikb4q6b1l9ids0e1pps5bukb(a)4ax.com: >> >>>>> Anybody hitting you would have to get their license yanked for for >>>>> being blind. >> >>>> Heh... True as that might be, people get run over by trains all the >>>> time. >> >> After forcing the motor cop off the road by making a right turn from >> the left lane the lady pleaded "didn't seeum". Cop replied that if >> she couldn't see his full dress Harley with three lights then he was >> taking her license. She said that she had indeed seen his Harley but >> had not seen that he was a policeman and assumed he was just some >> kid ..... >> >> That's why "conspicuity" works ... for a little while. > > Conspicuity is no panacea. Being seen (or being seen earlier) doesn't > offer the rider any guarantee that the other road user will react to > the presence of the motorcyclist at all, let alone in an appropriate > manner. EXPECTING to be seen is dangerous. Replacing a sound street > riding mental strategy with conspicuous clothing or a conspicuous > motorcycle, is just plain stupid. However, INCREASING conspicuity as > a PART of an evolving, flexible, aggressively proactive defensive > street riding mental strategy simply makes sense and can certainly > help a rider reduce risk. Well said.
From: The Older Gentleman on 5 Aug 2010 14:37 Vito <vito(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote: > > Conspicuity is no panacea. Being seen (or being seen earlier) doesn't > > offer the rider any guarantee that the other road user will react to > > the presence of the motorcyclist at all, let alone in an appropriate > > manner. EXPECTING to be seen is dangerous. Replacing a sound street > > riding mental strategy with conspicuous clothing or a conspicuous > > motorcycle, is just plain stupid. However, INCREASING conspicuity as > > a PART of an evolving, flexible, aggressively proactive defensive > > street riding mental strategy simply makes sense and can certainly > > help a rider reduce risk. > > Well said. It was, rather. "Always assume the bastards are out to kill you." -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Triumph Street Triple Honda CB400F Suzuki TS250 Suzuki GN250 chateaudotmurrayatidnetdotcom Nothing damages a machine more than an ignoramus with a manual, a can-do attitude and a set of cheap tools
From: The Older Gentleman on 5 Aug 2010 18:17 Stephen! <NO(a)spam.com> wrote: > I always got a giggle out of leaving my mandatory anti-terrorism > training where it was drilled into us, > > "Don't stand out!" > "Blend in!" > "When you leave the base, act like the locals!" > "You don't want them knowing you are in the military!!" > "Oh... By the way, you *must* wear this orange vest when riding you > motorcycle off base..." Superb. Don't you love the military way of thinking? -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Triumph Street Triple Honda CB400F Suzuki TS250 Suzuki GN250 chateaudotmurrayatidnetdotcom Nothing damages a machine more than an ignoramus with a manual, a can-do attitude and a set of cheap tools
From: S'mee on 5 Aug 2010 23:47
On Aug 5, 4:32 pm, "Stephen!" <N...(a)spam.com> wrote: > totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote innews:1jmry1e..afvdci1f9yk5cN%totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk: > > >> "When you leave the base, act like the locals!" > >> "You don't want them knowing you are in the military!!" > >> "Oh... By the way, you *must* wear this orange vest when riding you > >> motorcycle off base..." > > > Superb. Don't you love the military way of thinking? > > The odd part is that nobody seemed to see the duplicity. From SECNAV on > down they just didn't see the contradiction. Yep the army is the same... |