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From: J. Clarke on 14 Jul 2010 19:49 On 7/14/2010 7:19 PM, don (Calgary) wrote: > On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:13:40 +0100, totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk > (The Older Gentleman) wrote: > >> High Plains Thumper<hpt(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>> Actually, I'd like to see Harley put the water cooled V-Rod engine into >>> a cruiser. I know it would break the mould of oil cooled offerings at >>> the loss of the potato - potato - potato sound. But I feel that it is >>> inevitable that such should happen. >> >> Agree 100%. >> >> I'd also like to see it in a more coherent touring bike than what they >> make at the moment. Something with a decent chassis, more power >> (obviously!), more ground clearance and the sort of sophistication that >> would give BMW a few worries. >> >> They could do it - they just *choose* not to. Which is a bit odd. > > They could choose build a better mouse trap too, but that is not in > their business plan. They know what they do well and they understand > what their customers are looking for. To date they are doing a damn > good job of keeping their customers happy. I doubt they care very much > you find it "odd". But what is their objection to getting more customers of a different kind from the ones that they have? >
From: tomorrow on 14 Jul 2010 21:12 On Jul 14, 4:28 pm, "Bob Myers" <nospample...(a)address.invalid> wrote: > Vito wrote: > > Ahhh, lemme see, you know what is wrong but not what is right? > > Someone can easily know when a given proposition is wrong without > knowing what's right. I have no idea how gravity works, for instance, > but if someone tells me it's because there are tiny invisible elves > holding everything down, I think I'm pretty well justified in thinking > they're wrong. Well, DUH. Everyone knows the only kind of elves that are REAL are Harley cleaning elves. Sheesh.
From: tomorrow on 14 Jul 2010 21:14 On Jul 14, 6:58 pm, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote: > By the way, I am sure the beer will taste better, as you enjoy your > patio furniture, knowing you found a bargain and quality all wrapped > in the same package. <g> Drop by any time and do a taste test yourself1
From: tomorrow on 14 Jul 2010 21:17 On Jul 14, 7:47 pm, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote: > On 7/14/2010 7:02 PM, don (Calgary) wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 10:12:37 -0600, "Bob Myers" > > <nospample...(a)address.invalid> wrote: > > >> Beav wrote: > >>> I'm interested to know which bikes the Japanese produced were in > >>> competition with Harley? Until they produced the Harely clones I > >>> can't think of one. > > >> But you're not thinking in the right context. Any product that > >> is sold in a given market which can take a share of that market > >>from you is a competitor. At the time, Japanese standards, etc., > >> were seen as a possible alternative for buyers that might otherwise > >> have purchased a product from H-D. > > >> Bob M. > > > Excellent point. > > > When I was in the retail business, my stores were in competition with > > every other store in a shopping center, regardless of whether they > > sold identical products to what I was selling. We were all competing > > for the consumers disposable income. > > Of course if someone wants a standard and Harley doesn't make one, > that's Harley's error. You can't win unless you play the game. Of course, untold previously successful businesses have gone under, "playing" that game.
From: don (Calgary) on 14 Jul 2010 21:50
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 18:14:52 -0700 (PDT), "tomorrow(a)erols.com" <tomorrowaterolsdotcom(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >On Jul 14, 6:58�pm, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote: > >> By the way, I am sure the beer will taste better, as you enjoy your >> patio furniture, knowing you found a bargain and quality all wrapped >> in the same package. <g> > >Drop by any time and do a taste test yourself1 As I was riding my bicycle home from work this evening I saw a couple of bikes, loaded with luggage, headed out of town. Be careful giving me a destination, cuz I am but one tank of gas away from going on the road myself. <g> |