From: The Older Gentleman on
Paul Carmichael <wibbleypants(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> Mate of mine has a Genesis (750?). The electric gadget thing (relay I
> think) has gone bad and he says he can't get one in Spain.
>
> Anyone around here got one of these in their shed:
>
> http://paulc.es/genesis/100_0711.JPG
> http://paulc.es/genesis/100_0712.JPG
> http://paulc.es/genesis/100_0713.JPG
>
> It has these numbers on the top:
>
> 3EN-81950-00
> G8R-30Y-B
> OMRON JAPAN
> 28Y0D2

Is this the relay that handles the starter motor as well as one or two
otherthings (ISTR the same unit drives the indicators)?

And is his problem a non-functioning starter motor?

If so, this is a common fault on these bikes and it happened on a Yam
FZ750 I bought as a magazine project bike many moons ago.

For the starter, you can by-pass the relay with a wire run from the
battery. Note that this makes the starter circuit permanently live -
press the button, even with the ignition off, and it'll spin the engine
- but the bike still won't start as the ignition circuit is disabled
until you turn on the key.

Worth checking out - it worked for me. Obviously, only if the problem is
as I outlined, mind.


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From: Paul Carmichael on
On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:43:08 +0000, TMack escribió:

> Paul Carmichael wrote:
>> Mate of mine has a Genesis (750?). The electric gadget thing (relay I
>> think) has gone bad and he says he can't get one in Spain.
>>
>> Anyone around here got one of these in their shed:
>>
>> http://paulc.es/genesis/100_0711.JPG
>> http://paulc.es/genesis/100_0712.JPG
>> http://paulc.es/genesis/100_0713.JPG
>>
>> It has these numbers on the top:
>>
>> 3EN-81950-00
>> G8R-30Y-B
>> OMRON JAPAN
>> 28Y0D2
>
> Try contacting the vendor for this (didn't sell)
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/YAMAHA-XV1100-ELECTRICAL-RELAY-3EN8195000-NEW-
BNIB_W0QQitemZ200418066452QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxq20091215?
IMSfp=TL091215153002r22111

Cheers. I had seen that, but didn't know it hadn't sold. Seems a bit odd,
says PayPal accepted on the ad, but then says winning bidder has to phone
him with credit card details. Also says UK only, so perhaps he's not
prepared to send it abroad. I've emailed him anyway.

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BOTAFOT #4 BOTAFOF #30 MRO #24 OMF #15 UKRMMA #30
http://paulcarmichael.org/ (content pending)
From: Paul Carmichael on
On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:14:48 +0000, The Older Gentleman escribió:

> Paul Carmichael <wibbleypants(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> 3EN-81950-00
>> G8R-30Y-B
>> OMRON JAPAN
>> 28Y0D2
>
> Is this the relay that handles the starter motor as well as one or two
> otherthings (ISTR the same unit drives the indicators)?

> And is his problem a non-functioning starter motor?

Eleven pins, so I think it controls just about lots. I believe that the
problem is with the fuel pump. He thinks running out of fuel may have
caused the problem.

--
Paul.
CBR1100XX SuperBlackbird (Buen mueble de patio), Orbea Dakar
BOTAFOT #4 BOTAFOF #30 MRO #24 OMF #15 UKRMMA #30
http://paulcarmichael.org/ (content pending)
From: The Older Gentleman on
Paul Carmichael <wibbleypants(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:14:48 +0000, The Older Gentleman escribi�:
>
> > Paul Carmichael <wibbleypants(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> 3EN-81950-00
> >> G8R-30Y-B
> >> OMRON JAPAN
> >> 28Y0D2
> >
> > Is this the relay that handles the starter motor as well as one or two
> > otherthings (ISTR the same unit drives the indicators)?
>
> > And is his problem a non-functioning starter motor?
>
> Eleven pins, so I think it controls just about lots. I believe that the
> problem is with the fuel pump. He thinks running out of fuel may have
> caused the problem.

Running out of fuel would not have fritzed the relay. Trust me. Far more
likely that the fuel pump has gone AWOL, but even so, running out of
fuel wouldn't do that.

I'd check the pump by running a direct feed to it.

--
BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple
Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes!
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
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From: The Older Gentleman on
Paul Carmichael <wibbleypants(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:43:08 +0000, TMack escribi�:
>
> > Paul Carmichael wrote:
> >> Mate of mine has a Genesis (750?). The electric gadget thing (relay I
> >> think) has gone bad and he says he can't get one in Spain.
> >>
> >> Anyone around here got one of these in their shed:
> >>
> >> http://paulc.es/genesis/100_0711.JPG
> >> http://paulc.es/genesis/100_0712.JPG
> >> http://paulc.es/genesis/100_0713.JPG
> >>
> >> It has these numbers on the top:
> >>
> >> 3EN-81950-00
> >> G8R-30Y-B
> >> OMRON JAPAN
> >> 28Y0D2
> >
> > Try contacting the vendor for this (didn't sell)
> > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/YAMAHA-XV1100-ELECTRICAL-RELAY-3EN8195000-NEW-
> BNIB_W0QQitemZ200418066452QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxq20091215?
> IMSfp=TL091215153002r22111
>
> Cheers. I had seen that, but didn't know it hadn't sold. Seems a bit odd,
> says PayPal accepted on the ad, but then says winning bidder has to phone
> him with credit card details. Also says UK only, so perhaps he's not
> prepared to send it abroad. I've emailed him anyway.

If he won't, I could buy it on my eBay account and post it.

--
BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple
Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes!
Try Googling before asking a damn silly question.
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com