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From: Ace on 23 Dec 2009 09:48 On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:06:10 -0000, "'Hog" <sm911SPAM(a)hotmailCHIPS.co.uk> wrote: >Champ wrote: >> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:59:53 -0000, "'Hog" >> <sm911SPAM(a)hotmailCHIPS.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> As for Champ, well he refuses to let drop that some people have >>> diametrically opposed opinions. >> >> eh? I'm fully aware that there's many people, with many unpleasant >> opinions out there. Yours are easily the most unpleasant on here, >> tho. > >Unpleasant to you though. Other people would find your attitude re offenders >unpleasant. How so? I can't see how anyone could think that treating offenders like human beings is 'unpleasant'. Is treating them as sub-human somehow 'pleasant'? FWIW I _still_ think you're winding us up to some extent - you come across as a mostly intelligent person, so I find it hard to accept that you really believe in the things you say. If you do, I really, _really_ hope that some day you have the opportunity to see things from the other side of the bars. How do you feel about gas chambers for mass extermination, BTW? Or would you prefer to just work and starve them to death?
From: 'Hog on 23 Dec 2009 09:49 Champ wrote: > On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:27:38 +0100, Ace <b.rogers(a)ifrance.com> wrote: > >>>>> Someone who toured Alcatraz told me recently that the (individual) >>>>> cells were essentially open to the elements. >>>> >>>> I was there, did the tour, a few weeks ago - your 'someone' was >>>> talking bollocks. > >> It's not the coldest part of the world > > "The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Fancisco" www.snopes.com/quotes/twain.asp -- 'Hog
From: darsy on 23 Dec 2009 09:53 On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:48:55 +0100, Ace <b.rogers(a)ifrance.com> wrote: >How do you feel about gas chambers for mass extermination keeps the Jupilers in a job... -- d.
From: Ace on 23 Dec 2009 09:56 On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:41:20 +0000, Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> wrote: >On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:27:38 +0100, Ace <b.rogers(a)ifrance.com> wrote: > >>>>> Someone who toured Alcatraz told me recently that the (individual) >>>>> cells were essentially open to the elements. >>>> >>>> I was there, did the tour, a few weeks ago - your 'someone' was >>>> talking bollocks. > >>It's not the coldest part of the world > >"The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Fancisco" It's one of those self-perpetuating myths. Sure, in parts of the Bay area it's cooler than the surrounding countryside, due to frequent sea mists, but 'cold' it ain't. Four weeks ago they were all claiming that it was unseasonably warm and sunny - the day we went out to Alcatraz was clear and around 19C, IIRC ; last week they were complaining about the bitter winter rains, as it had dropped to around 10C. They just don't know proper weather.
From: Andy Bonwick on 23 Dec 2009 09:57
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:48:55 +0100, Ace <b.rogers(a)ifrance.com> wrote: >On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:06:10 -0000, "'Hog" ><sm911SPAM(a)hotmailCHIPS.co.uk> wrote: > >>Champ wrote: >>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:59:53 -0000, "'Hog" >>> <sm911SPAM(a)hotmailCHIPS.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> As for Champ, well he refuses to let drop that some people have >>>> diametrically opposed opinions. >>> >>> eh? I'm fully aware that there's many people, with many unpleasant >>> opinions out there. Yours are easily the most unpleasant on here, >>> tho. >> >>Unpleasant to you though. Other people would find your attitude re offenders >>unpleasant. > >How so? I can't see how anyone could think that treating offenders >like human beings is 'unpleasant'. Is treating them as sub-human >somehow 'pleasant'? > I'd love to hear Hogs views on victims that say they forgive the offender. It's probably something along the lines of "deluded leftie scum". >FWIW I _still_ think you're winding us up to some extent - you come >across as a mostly intelligent person, so I find it hard to accept >that you really believe in the things you say. > I'm sorry to say that I think he does believe in what he says but that's only because he hasn't been caught yet. >If you do, I really, _really_ hope that some day you have the >opportunity to see things from the other side of the bars. > Visiting him would be fun. I'd particularly enjoy the part where he gets taken back to his cell block. >How do you feel about gas chambers for mass extermination, BTW? Or >would you prefer to just work and starve them to death? Surely you should only gas them when they can no longer work? |