From: ? on 2 Aug 2010 20:10 On Aug 2, 11:15 am, "S'mee" <stevenkei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > I'd call that a qualified chance of harm as the japanese fire control > was far more primative than the american systems...even compared to > what was sunk at pearl. Just how bad were the Japanese naval gunners? On March 1, 1942 USS Edsall (DD219) evaded 1268 rounds of 6, 8, 14 heavy ordnance from battleships Hiei and Kirishima and heavy cruisers Tone and Ckikuma, sustaining only *one* minor hit in a two hour running battle... Admiral Noguma was incensed by the failure of Japanese naval gunners to sink the Edsall and ordered dive bombers from his carriers to finish the job. The Japanese naval gunnery manuals were rewritten as a result of this otherwise insignificant naval battle.
From: ? on 2 Aug 2010 20:11 On Aug 2, 2:55 pm, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote: > force of numbers. > > Um, more like *very good* Soviet intel. They knew *exactly* what the > Huns were going to do. I'll bet yer Mum told them, eh?
From: S'mee on 2 Aug 2010 21:15 On Aug 2, 6:11 pm, "?" <breoganmacbr...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Aug 2, 2:55 pm, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older > > Gentleman) wrote: > > force of numbers. > > > Um, more like *very good* Soviet intel. They knew *exactly* what the > > Huns were going to do. > > I'll bet yer Mum told them, eh? No it was one of my cousins. 8^) She worked for the NKVD and was never purged...they were scared of her.
From: S'mee on 2 Aug 2010 21:16 On Aug 2, 6:10 pm, "?" <breoganmacbr...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Aug 2, 11:15 am, "S'mee" <stevenkei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > I'd call that a qualified chance of harm as the japanese fire control > > was far more primative than the american systems...even compared to > > what was sunk at pearl. > > Just how bad were the Japanese naval gunners? > > On March 1, 1942 USS Edsall (DD219) evaded 1268 rounds of 6, 8, 14 > heavy ordnance from battleships Hiei and Kirishima and heavy cruisers > Tone and Ckikuma, sustaining only *one* minor hit in a two hour > running battle... > > Admiral Noguma was incensed by the failure of Japanese naval gunners > to sink the Edsall and ordered dive bombers from his carriers to > finish the job. > > The Japanese naval gunnery manuals were rewritten as a result of this > otherwise insignificant naval battle. LOL you had to look it up. I already KNEW how awful they were.
From: ? on 2 Aug 2010 22:36
On Aug 2, 6:16 pm, "S'mee" <stevenkei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > LOL you had to look it up. I already KNEW how awful they were. My uncle was on the Edsall, you twerp. That's how I found out what happened to his ship. The Japanese picked up several sailors and soldiers from the wreckage, but left most of the crew to drown in the Java Sea. About three years later, Admiral Nogumo blew his brains out in a cave on Saipan. |