From: sean_q on
The Older Gentleman wrote:

> Um, more like *very good* Soviet intel. They knew *exactly* what the
> Huns were going to do.

That helped. But it's not much use learning the enemy's plans
if you haven't the means to counter them.

SQ
From: Twibil on
On Aug 2, 9:59 pm, sean_q <no.s...(a)no.spam> wrote:
>
>
> > Um, more like *very good* Soviet intel. They knew *exactly* what the
> > Huns were going to do.
>
> That helped. But it's not much use learning the enemy's plans
> if you haven't the means to counter them.

?

Did the Germans end up winning the war and we somehow failed to hear
about it? If not -and I believe this to be the case- Russia *had*
the means to counter the German plans and did exactly that.

If Hitler hadn't been living in a fantasy world of German uber-
superiority he'd have taken a quick look at a map of Russia, consulted
the stats on the relative population numbers of Germany and the Soviet
Union, and would have *instantly* decided to make Little Joe his best
pal forever.

Germany's fate was sealed fom the moment they invaded Russia.
From: ? on
On Aug 3, 12:26 am, Twibil <nowayjo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Germany's fate was sealed fom the moment they invaded Russia.

If the Germans hadn't invaded Russia, the Russians would have invaded
Germany.

There are documents on the interwebby thing which refer to the massing
of Soviet army units near the border before Hitler drove to the east.
From: S'mee on
On Aug 2, 10:59 pm, sean_q <no.s...(a)no.spam> wrote:
> The Older Gentleman wrote:
> > Um, more like *very good* Soviet intel. They knew *exactly* what the
> > Huns were going to do.
>
> That helped. But it's not much use learning the enemy's plans
> if you haven't the means to counter them.

But they did comrade they did and the history books back it...the
military history books back the battle plan for Kursk even better.
From: S'mee on
On Aug 3, 1:26 am, Twibil <nowayjo...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 2, 9:59 pm, sean_q <no.s...(a)no.spam> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > Um, more like *very good* Soviet intel. They knew *exactly* what the
> > > Huns were going to do.
>
> > That helped. But it's not much use learning the enemy's plans
> > if you haven't the means to counter them.
>
> ?
>
> Did the Germans end up winning the war and we somehow failed to hear
> about it?  If not  -and I believe this to be the case-  Russia *had*
> the means to counter the German plans and did exactly that.
>
> If Hitler hadn't been living in a fantasy world of German uber-
> superiority he'd have taken a quick look at a map of Russia, consulted
> the stats on the relative population numbers of Germany and the Soviet
> Union, and would have *instantly* decided to make Little Joe his best
> pal forever.
>
> Germany's fate was sealed fom the moment they invaded Russia.

Don't forget all the amphetamines hitler lived on.