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From: Pip Luscher on 6 Jun 2010 05:04 On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 22:04:29 +0000 (UTC), wessie <putmynamehere(a)tesco.net> wrote: >"Speedgazebo MOTP #1" <nickaird(a)gmail.com> wrote in news:6cd501d5-7be7- >4e76-82fd-7d72921047a2(a)y11g2000yqm.googlegroups.com: > > >> I have to add a footnote to the original post, I did actually suffer >> an injury I wouldn't have if I was properly dressed. I burnt my leg on >> the bloody exhaust pipe when I got off it at home. >> > >I have nothing agianst riding in shorts but wouldn't do so on the R-GS. >It's not uncommon for your shins to make contact with the sticky-out >cylinders when putting a foot down at a junction etc. Ouch. Actually, this reminds me that riding my old TL in traffic on a hot day while wearing thin combats was bleeding uncomfortable - the rear subframe got very hot. -- -Pip
From: Brian on 6 Jun 2010 05:11 On 5 June, 19:54, "SIRPip" <gingerbl...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Speedgazebo MOTP #1 wrote: snip > Leather costs money. > > Skin heals for free. > Indeed it does, but the health care (if NHS) is only free at the point of delivery if the injury is bad enough to require professional health care then it costs the NHS lots. Yes I know we all pay our taxes and risk is a personal thing, so don't have a problem with people's own decisions but body repairs are expensive and bloody painful. If Champ's repairs a couple of years ago were on the NHS I wonder what they amounted to. I celebrate his freedom to choose to race and am sorry it went the way that it did, sounded like the health care was good, am very pleased he is now well enough to race again and wish him all the best this week, by the way what is Champ's name so I can keep an eye open for him on the tele coverage. Decades back I used to ride as described, but in those days we called trainers plimsoles. I never ever ride without the jacket or gloves and hardly ever without the leggings. All down to a physiotherapist friend who told me about degloveing injuries she had seen following bikes accidents; see link of what I believe is an extreme example but certainly made me think more than twice. http://www.orthogate.org/cases/hand-and-wrist/degloving-forearm-injury.html Still as has been said if it makes you ride more carefully the risks must be reduced, but I bet that doesn't make the injury any less if it does happen. So says the whimp on a dullsville. Brian
From: SIRPip on 6 Jun 2010 05:32 Brian wrote: > On 5 June, 19:54, "SIRPip" <gingerbl...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Leather costs money. � > > > > Skin heals for free. � > > > Indeed it does, but the health care (if NHS) is only free at the point > of delivery if the injury is bad enough to require professional health > care then it costs the NHS lots. Yes I know we all pay our taxes and > risk is a personal thing, so don't have a problem with people's own > decisions but body repairs are expensive and bloody painful. If > Champ's repairs a couple of years ago were on the NHS I wonder what > they amounted to. I celebrate his freedom to choose to race and am > sorry it went the way that it did, sounded like the health care was > good, am very pleased he is now well enough to race again and wish him > all the best this week, by the way what is Champ's name so I can keep > an eye open for him on the tele coverage. <hands over award for this week's longest sentence> He's not racing. > > Decades back I used to ride as described, but in those days we called > trainers plimsoles. I never ever ride without the jacket or gloves and > hardly ever without the leggings. Pfft. I usually wear a jacket of some description, just for the pockets. I have a whole range of weather-dependent gear, but for a short-range bimble in hot and humid conditions a T-shirt and zipped-off combats win every time. >All down to a physiotherapist friend > who told me about degloveing injuries she had seen following bikes > accidents; see link of what I believe is an extreme example but > certainly made me think more than twice. > > http://www.orthogate.org/cases/hand-and-wrist/degloving-forearm-injury > .html <wince> Still, that's what happens when you trap an arm beneath a moving car. > Still as has been said if it makes you ride more carefully the risks > must be reduced, but I bet that doesn't make the injury any less if it > does happen. I'd suggest that injuries sustained when riding sedately (I'm always careful, I don't get careless just because I'm not inside a cow's skin) would be less damaging due to the lack of speed. Obviously, if I drop it when U-turning then a layer of leather will stand up to it better than skin, but my speed is limited on a naked bike when in a T-shirt due to insect impact. If I lob it overtaking at 60 in a shirt it'll prolly hurt less (although for longer) than coming off at 140 in leathers. -- SIRPip : B12
From: Brian on 6 Jun 2010 06:39 On 6 June, 10:32, "SIRPip" <gingerbl...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > <hands over award for this week's longest sentence> Accepts with thanks and embarrassment. > He's not racing. I assumed his posts re mates and engine transport to IOM meant he was, maybe next year then. > > Decades back I used to ride as described, but in those days we called > > trainers plimsoles. I never ever ride without the jacket or gloves and > > hardly ever without the leggings. (Brian's post) > Pfft. I usually wear a jacket of some description, just for the > pockets. I have a whole range of weather-dependent gear, but for a > short-range bimble in hot and humid conditions a T-shirt and zipped-off > combats win every time. I meant shorts, tee shirt and plimsoles. Also much less traffic around in the 60s and bikes nowhere near as capable then as now, in terms of speed, road holding and braking. They hadn't created zip off trousers then. > >http://www.orthogate.org/cases/hand-and-wrist/degloving-forearm-injury > > .html > > <wince> > > Still, that's what happens when you trap an arm beneath a moving car. > Indeed, but I can see opportunities for such an injury when coming off a bike. She was describing a bike accident injury at the time, the link is simply an example. I could't find an image of a bike related one. > I'd suggest that injuries sustained when riding sedately (I'm always > careful, I don't get careless just because I'm not inside a cow's skin) > would be less damaging due to the lack of speed. Indeed this is should be so. >Obviously, if I drop it when U-turning then a layer of leather will stand up to it better > than skin, but my speed is limited on a naked bike when in a T-shirt > due to insect impact. If I lob it overtaking at 60 in a shirt it'll > prolly hurt less (although for longer) than coming off at 140 in > leathers. I'm sure that's right, assuming you don't go sliding down the road. Look at Rossi's accident yesterday, off at 120 with plenty of sliding along the floor. No degloving injuries (demonstrates the worth of cow skins) but a completely buggered shin/ankle. It always amazes me at the guts of those guys, sit up whilst sliding your bum on tarmac at god knows what speed, then, jump up and usually insist on getting back on. Brian
From: sweller on 6 Jun 2010 07:03
Speedgazebo MOTP #1 wrote: > I am sure that some here > will get all smug and think that this is irresponsible, dangerous and > stupid because it's so dangerous. Did you have a cloak? -- Simon |