From: Rob Kleinschmidt on
On Jul 1, 6:05 pm, BryanUT <nestl...(a)comcast.net> wrote:

> I am not against gun rights, I just find it so weird that people
> living in one the safest societies the world has ever known feel
> compelled to carry "for protection".

I recall one guy explaining why he thought Karate
was good to know.

"You never know when you'll get a chance...I mean
NEED.... to use it. "
From: tripletask on
On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 22:01:20 -0500, "Snag" <snag_one(a)comcast.net>
wrote:

>BryanUT wrote:
>> Utah is considering eliminating our already liberal concealed carry
>> law. They are proposing no permit necessary to carry a concealed
>> weapon, we can already conceal one in our car without permit.
>>
>> Open carry is fully legal, no permit required, anywhere anytime.
>>
>> So of course the guys that sell conceal carry permit classes have
>> mixed feelings. Gee that is a surprise.
>>
>> All I can say is that John Wayne never resorted to a concealed weapon,
>> he wore his proudly.
>>
>> Talk amongst yourselves.
>
> When I lived there the open carry law was "two complete cocking motions to
>bring a live round under the hammer" on revolvers , empty chamber on
>semi-auto pistols - that was w/out any kind of permit . Still that way for
>open carry ?
> Tennessee has "handgun carry permits" , open or concealed as you choose .
>And unlike some places , I can carry any handgun I like , not just the one I
>qualified with .

AZ new law allows concealed carry without permits. No problems.
From: S'mee on
On Jul 1, 8:42 pm, Jason S <jasonsav...(a)me.com> wrote:
> BryanUT <nestl...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> > Utah is considering eliminating  our already liberal concealed carry
> > law. They are proposing no permit necessary to carry a concealed
> > weapon, we can already conceal one in our car without permit.
>
> > Open carry is fully legal, no permit required, anywhere anytime.
>
> > So of course the guys that sell conceal carry permit classes have
> > mixed feelings. Gee that is a surprise.
>
> > All I can say is that John Wayne never resorted to a concealed weapon,
> > he wore his proudly.
>
> > Talk amongst yourselves.
>
> Thats insane. I'm from New York, where it can take months to even get a
> handgun permit. I would never think of such a thing (no permit for
> concealed guns) as possible. But that's just me.

IIRC and no I didn't look it up but doesn't New York have a higher per
capita gun crime and murder rate than Montana? So by that standard not
carrying a gun their is insane. Remember, when seconds count the
police are minutes away and they aren't obligated to stop a crime.
From: Datesfat Chicks on
"Rob Kleinschmidt" <Rkleinsch1216128(a)aol.com> wrote in message
news:11f654dc-00c9-4a63-b59e-339431dcbe6a(a)m35g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 1, 6:05 pm, BryanUT <nestl...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I am not against gun rights, I just find it so weird that people
> living in one the safest societies the world has ever known feel
> compelled to carry "for protection".
>
>I recall one guy explaining why he thought Karate
>was good to know.
>
>"You never know when you'll get a chance...I mean
>NEED.... to use it. "

If you've ever played Grand Theft Auto IV, the bank robbery scene is
hilarious.

Check out this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkC0kE8Df58

starting at about time offset 1:10.

I think the authors of GTA-IV were poking fun in the direction of exactly
what you said.

Datesfat

From: mayner on
On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 16:47:14 -0700 (PDT), BryanUT
<nestle12(a)comcast.net> wrote:

>Utah is considering eliminating our already liberal concealed carry
>law. They are proposing no permit necessary to carry a concealed
>weapon, we can already conceal one in our car without permit.
>
>Open carry is fully legal, no permit required, anywhere anytime.
>
>So of course the guys that sell conceal carry permit classes have
>mixed feelings. Gee that is a surprise.
>
>All I can say is that John Wayne never resorted to a concealed weapon,
>he wore his proudly.
>
>Talk amongst yourselves.


I'd carry, at least in my car, if California would allow it.

Fat chance.
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