From: Leslie on
On May 7, 11:31 pm, Mark Olson <ols...(a)tiny.invalid> wrote:

[...]
> There's plenty of textile overtrousers on the market, separate from
> jackets.  I like the quick on/off of the one piece suit.  I am also
> never going to be caught out wearing only a jacket.  As the estimable
> Dr. Woodward was fond of saying, if you're only going to wear half
> the gear, probably best to wear the over trousers, since injuries to
> your upper body are less life-altering than injuries to your legs
> which affect mobility.

True that. After all, breaking one's legs simply chains the victim to
a computer, leaving him free to type, blog, post on the Usenet and so
on, whereas with broken arms the Usenet is safe, but the patient is
still free to roam around, doing... erm... well... OK, maybe I do
prefer my arms to my legs, if I do have to choose. ;-)

I was an ATGATT safety nazi the first year of riding, then reality
caught up with me, so I do sometimes ride in "civilian" jeans, if it's
only a few kilometres in city traffic.

Besides, the main type of injury against which motorcycle clothing
protects is road rash. Which is not life-altering, only painful. To
protect against fractures you need mainly luck, and sometimes a bit of
strategically placed armour.

--
Leslie
NTV 650
From: Mark Olson on
Leslie wrote:

> Besides, the main type of injury against which motorcycle clothing
> protects is road rash. Which is not life-altering, only painful. To
> protect against fractures you need mainly luck, and sometimes a bit of
> strategically placed armour.

I have zero illusions about what sort of protection even the finest
motorcycle suit (Halvarsson's Safety Suit?) can provide. As you say,
it's good for preventing road rash but blunt force injury or being
run through by a pole, they can't prevent.

Oh. did I just lay out a feedline?

Anyway- the best thing about an oversuit is the all weather protection
and the pockets. Lots of room to fill it up until you start to look
like Bibendum.

From: sweller on
Mark Olson wrote:

> Lee, Levis, Wrangler, they all work fine when worn under proper
> motorcycle trousers.

Bollocks - they work fine /as/ motorcycle trousers. I've crashed in
cords FFS.

--
Simon
From: Champ on
On Fri, 07 May 2010 14:59:38 -0500, Mark Olson <olsonm(a)tiny.invalid>
wrote:

>Lee, Levis, Wrangler, they all work fine when worn _under_ proper motorcycle
>trousers.

Ordinary jeans work fine when just worn normally. I've probably had
most of my crashes wearing jeans and trainers. Last time was 7~8
years ago, and I just got a skinned knee.
--
Champ
We declare that the splendour of the world has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed.
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From: Mark Olson on
Champ wrote:
> On Fri, 07 May 2010 14:59:38 -0500, Mark Olson <olsonm(a)tiny.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Lee, Levis, Wrangler, they all work fine when worn _under_ proper motorcycle
>> trousers.
>
> Ordinary jeans work fine when just worn normally. I've probably had
> most of my crashes wearing jeans and trainers. Last time was 7~8
> years ago, and I just got a skinned knee.

OK, I'm not a Safety Nazi, but I've crashed in jeans, and in gear,
and I'll take gear MOST of the time, TYVM. I occasionally wear
jeans, too. I even ride without a helmet on occasion, usually
just around the block, when I'm working on one of the bikes. A
lot of my riding, most of it, is commuting, and the oversuit is
very practical in all weathers. It's been quite cold in the
morning so far this riding season and that's another plus point
for the Aerostich. Come July and August, not so much...