From: ginge on
On Sun, 09 May 2010 12:25:50 GMT, YTC#1 <bdp(a)ytc1-nospam.co.uk> wrote:

>>>Lee, Levis, Wrangler, they all work fine when worn _under_ proper
>>>motorcycle trousers. Look for something with a Gore-Tex liner for
>>>comfort and water resistance.

I really can't imagine wearing jeans under another pair of bike
trousers, surely you end up with something several sizes too big that
has all the armour in the wrong place?. My Gericke cordura stuff I
wear as I would normal trousers, on their own.
From: Mark Olson on
YTC#1 wrote:

>> Lee, Levis, Wrangler, they all work fine when worn _under_ proper
>> motorcycle trousers. Look for something with a Gore-Tex liner for
>> comfort and water resistance.
>
> You are totally missing the point.

I think I get it, someone wants to avoid wearing dedicated motorcycling
kit by buying reinforced jeans, which are supposed to provide some
protection in case of a get off. This is good because you don't have
to store a big bulky oversuit, I understand that. I just happen to have
made a different choice, and in the time honored tradition of recommending
what you own, have been doing just that.

I do believe I am right when I say the amount of protection afforded by
such products isn't much, and judging from the responses suggesting just
wearing normal jeans, I'm probably not too far from the mark.

But do carry on with your own views, which no doubt are just as valid as
any others put forth here, we're all here to pool our ignorance for the
common benefit.



From: Mark Olson on
ginge wrote:
> On Sun, 09 May 2010 12:25:50 GMT, YTC#1 <bdp(a)ytc1-nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>> Lee, Levis, Wrangler, they all work fine when worn _under_ proper
>>>> motorcycle trousers. Look for something with a Gore-Tex liner for
>>>> comfort and water resistance.
>
> I really can't imagine wearing jeans under another pair of bike
> trousers, surely you end up with something several sizes too big that
> has all the armour in the wrong place?. My Gericke cordura stuff I
> wear as I would normal trousers, on their own.

And do you wear them at the office?

I wear my oversuit over my normal clothes. That way I don't have to
change clothes when I get to work. It works pretty well for me.

From: ginge on
On Sun, 09 May 2010 07:35:56 -0500, Mark Olson <olsonm(a)tiny.invalid>
wrote:

>ginge wrote:
>> On Sun, 09 May 2010 12:25:50 GMT, YTC#1 <bdp(a)ytc1-nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Lee, Levis, Wrangler, they all work fine when worn _under_ proper
>>>>> motorcycle trousers. Look for something with a Gore-Tex liner for
>>>>> comfort and water resistance.
>>
>> I really can't imagine wearing jeans under another pair of bike
>> trousers, surely you end up with something several sizes too big that
>> has all the armour in the wrong place?. My Gericke cordura stuff I
>> wear as I would normal trousers, on their own.
>
>And do you wear them at the office?

I'd never be able to wear bike gear at the office. Trousers folded up
in my backpack along with laptop is the only option I've ever used.
From: YTC#1 on
On Sun, 09 May 2010 07:34:15 -0500, Mark Olson wrote:

> YTC#1 wrote:
>
>>> Lee, Levis, Wrangler, they all work fine when worn _under_ proper
>>> motorcycle trousers. Look for something with a Gore-Tex liner for
>>> comfort and water resistance.
>>
>> You are totally missing the point.
>
> I think I get it, someone wants to avoid wearing dedicated motorcycling

Kevlar re-enforced jeans are dedicated motorcycle kit, so you are missing
the point.

> kit by buying reinforced jeans, which are supposed to provide some
> protection in case of a get off. This is good because you don't have to
> store a big bulky oversuit, I understand that. I just happen to have

It is not so you do not have to store the above, it is to give you
options. This weekend I used my leathers, that was the warmth/protection
option I wanted.

> made a different choice, and in the time honored tradition of
> recommending what you own, have been doing just that.

Just because you own it, does not make it the best, by all means offer up
your opinion based on it, but that was no reason to dismiss the jeans
option.

Owen appears to have a specific need, and wants advice based on that.



>
> I do believe I am right when I say the amount of protection afforded by
> such products isn't much, and judging from the responses suggesting just
> wearing normal jeans, I'm probably not too far from the mark.

You can feel as right as you want, but when it comes to wearing jeans I
am happier with the kevlar type, I wear them in warm weather and have
worn them to work, many times.

It is each to his own.

>
> But do carry on with your own views, which no doubt are just as valid as

More valid than than yours.

> any others put forth here, we're all here to pool our ignorance for the
> common benefit.

You have no experience of the subject matter, so are in no position to
offer advice.