Turning The TW200 Into A Street Bike (Mostly)
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From: . on 10 Aug 2008 09:07 On Aug 9, 11:24�pm, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote: > Actual dry weather tyre grip is much more a function of the type of > rubber used.. Two questions: 1) Did your Da know you were a hanky prancer? 2) Do you keep your hankies in the same drawer as your women's underwear?
From: Rick Cortese on 10 Aug 2008 11:59 lobo wrote: > "Bill Miller." <jay-smith-1935(a)excite.com> wrote in message > news:c8e75b7f-290f-4e4b-80ce-89567fe22cd6(a)x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 9, 5:10 am, Blattus Slafaly <boobooililili...(a)roadrunner.com> > wrote: I like the big knobby tires and they wear quite slow. Also > their replacement cost on the internet is comparable to standard > tires. And on the occasion that I go off road, damn glad I have them. > Blattus Slafaly > > So you kept the knobbies and really don't think there'd be a steering/ > handling/mpg advantage on-road with a change to a more highway- > friendly tread? > > Bill > > Lurking here and was wondering how the knobbies would handle in the corners > on wet pavment? > Ray > > > Been a long time since I rode a nobby hard on the street. I still test MX bikes in the street in front of my house but that doesn't get them to the problem stage. We used to call it "walking" I don't know if there is another term for it or if that is the official term. You would really notice it if you were pushing a bike hard into a turn, maybe 15 or 20 mph over the posted speed. What happens is the knob in contact with the pavement bends letting the rear tire track to the outside of the turn w/o actually breaking traction. The longer you have to hold the turn, the more noticible it is. It feels almost like someone picked up the rear of the bike and tossed it ~2' to the outside of the turn. I never noticed it on the front. It's only a problem if you think you are Valentino Rossi while riding a dual sport or MX bike.
From: The Older Gentleman on 10 Aug 2008 17:22 .. <yefelnagrom(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Aug 9, 11:24?pm, totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older > Gentleman) wrote: > > > Actual dry weather tyre grip is much more a function of the type of > > rubber used.. > > Two questions: > > 1) Did your Da know you were a hanky prancer? > > 2) Do you keep your hankies in the same drawer as your women's > underwear? *Sigh* -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Yamaha XT600E Honda CB400F chateau dot murray at idnet dot com "What you're proposing to do will involve a lot of time and hassle for no tangible benefit."
From: The Older Gentleman on 10 Aug 2008 17:30 Bill Miller. <jay-smith-1935(a)excite.com> wrote: > Anyone looking at the stock knobbies on the TW200 can clearly see that > they are primarily designed for off-road (non-pavement) use. True or > false? Probably true, yes. > > Then when you look at the two tires in the link I provided, anyone can > clearly see that the tread on those tires leans more toward on-road > (pavement_ use than off-road. > > That's all I was saying---that these two tires ... > > FRONT: > > http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/2/29/393/14780/ITEM/Bridgestone-TW203 > -Trail-Wing-Dual-Sport-Front-Tire.aspx > > and REAR: > > http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/2/29/393/14781/ITEM/Bridgestone-TW204 > -Trail-Wing-Dual-Sport-Rear-Tire.aspx > > ...are not "superior" to the stock tires but only that they appear to > have a tread better suited for on-road (pavement) use. True or > false? Nothing more! True. But still far from ideal. > > And if that's the case, and most (approximately 80%) of my riding will > be on-road (pavement) then why wouldn't I replace the stock tires with > these? No need to carry this discussion into any other areas. It's a > rather simple selection...pick choice A (stock tires) or choice B (the > tires shown in the links) for a bike that going to be driven on-road > (pavement) at least 80% of the time and the other 20% of "off-road" > use will be very light and easy trails and/or dirt/gravel secondary > roads. > > If you truly think, based solely upon the planned uses I've described > for my particular situation, that this idea has no merit, then please > give me the facts and data to refute what I've just said regarding > these two choices of tires. No generalizations needed about this or > that but please just pick choice A or choice B and W-H-Y. Thank you. No, fair enough. But still far from ideal. -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Yamaha XT600E Honda CB400F chateau dot murray at idnet dot com "What you're proposing to do will involve a lot of time and hassle for no tangible benefit."
From: Claude Hopper on 10 Aug 2008 18:44
Rick Cortese wrote: > lobo wrote: >> "Bill Miller." <jay-smith-1935(a)excite.com> wrote in message >> news:c8e75b7f-290f-4e4b-80ce-89567fe22cd6(a)x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... >> On Aug 9, 5:10 am, Blattus Slafaly <boobooililili...(a)roadrunner.com> >> wrote: I like the big knobby tires and they wear quite slow. Also >> their replacement cost on the internet is comparable to standard >> tires. And on the occasion that I go off road, damn glad I have them. >> Blattus Slafaly >> >> So you kept the knobbies and really don't think there'd be a steering/ >> handling/mpg advantage on-road with a change to a more highway- >> friendly tread? >> >> Bill >> >> Lurking here and was wondering how the knobbies would handle in the >> corners on wet pavment? >> Ray >> >> >> > > Been a long time since I rode a nobby hard on the street. I still test > MX bikes in the street in front of my house but that doesn't get them to > the problem stage. > > We used to call it "walking" I don't know if there is another term for > it or if that is the official term. You would really notice it if you > were pushing a bike hard into a turn, maybe 15 or 20 mph over the posted > speed. What happens is the knob in contact with the pavement bends > letting the rear tire track to the outside of the turn w/o actually > breaking traction. The longer you have to hold the turn, the more > noticible it is. It feels almost like someone picked up the rear of the > bike and tossed it ~2' to the outside of the turn. I never noticed it on > the front. > > It's only a problem if you think you are Valentino Rossi while riding a > dual sport or MX bike. I don't mind a little walking. It walks on those steel grate bridges too. -- Claude Hopper ? 3 :) 7/8 |