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From: S'mee on 19 May 2010 16:52 On May 19, 10:08 am, Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsch1216...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On May 18, 11:01 pm, "83LowRider" <a...(a)ddresswilldo.com> wrote: > > > Twibil wrote: > > > Of course, if we're going to start executing people for stupidity > > > you're likely to have bought into more trouble here than you really > > > wanted. > > > He wasn't taken in for being stupid. He was arrested for > > kidnapping and theft. He SHOULD BE shot or hanged, > > as should any person trying to kidnap and hold innocent > > civilians. Maybe then, those like him would get the message. > > His buds got taken out by snipers. That's probably > a strong enough message. > > The argument seems to be that we should short circuit > our constitution, laws and rules for trials, but only for > people who "really deserve it". > > Once you decide that's OK, it opens an awful wide door. > Just on the off chance that I or somebody I know was > picked up on suspicion of something, whether I did it or not, > I think I'd want a trial. Yes but your argument and that of many fails to concider that on the high seas the captain is the law. Pirates have no rights except for the right to a short drop and a sudden stop. That being if the weren't shot first naturally. Still they fucked up and brought him to court so he had to be tried...that's the law.
From: S'mee on 19 May 2010 16:55 On May 19, 12:12 pm, Twibil <nowayjo...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 19, 12:01 am, "83LowRider" <a...(a)ddresswilldo.com> wrote: > > > > > > Of course, if we're going to start executing people for stupidity > > > you're likely to have bought into more trouble here than you really > > > wanted. > > > He wasn't taken in for being stupid. He was arrested for > > kidnapping and theft. He SHOULD BE shot or hanged, > > as should any person trying to kidnap and hold innocent > > civilians. Maybe then, those like him would get the message. > > Yup. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. (So what's yours?) He's a nutjob and dumber than a stump...ought to be a capital crime. > The pirate was sentenced according to our present laws, and does > someone really have to explain to you why we don't summarily shoot or > hang people just because some yahoo thinks it would be a good idea? Heh, he should have never made it to shore...shot the bastards or hang 'em either is too good for a pirate.
From: Bob Myers on 19 May 2010 18:05 On 5/19/2010 2:55 PM, S'mee wrote: > > He's a nutjob and dumber than a stump...ought to be a capital crime. > Sooner or later, though, the universe seems to be set up such that stupidity IS a capital offense, on average. Bob M.
From: Rob Kleinschmidt on 19 May 2010 18:27 On May 19, 9:40 am, .p.jm.(a)see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote: > On Wed, 19 May 2010 09:08:43 -0700 (PDT), Rob Kleinschmidt > > <Rkleinsch1216...(a)aol.com> wrote: > >His buds got taken out by snipers. That's probably > >a strong enough message. > > Great logic. So, you figure if 3 guys rob a bank, and two of > them are killed in a police shoot-out, we should let the third one go, > because 'His buds got taken out' ? If he surrenders, we put him in custody, try him and if convicted, sentence him and throw him in jail. What part of this didn't you figure out in your high school civics class ?
From: Rob Kleinschmidt on 19 May 2010 18:33
On May 19, 9:18 am, "83LowRider" <a...(a)ddresswilldo.com> wrote: > Rob Kleinschmidt wrote: > > Once you decide that's OK, it opens an awful wide door. > > Just on the off chance that I or somebody I know was > > picked up on suspicion of something, whether I did it or not, > > I think I'd want a trial. > > I understand your principle, but being as he was taken > from a boat he had boarded (in order to take prisoners) > it leaves little doubt... but okay, have a trial, then shoot him. > Criminal 'justice' demands three things to be effective, > Certainty - you WILL be caught > Severity - you will pay a high price for your crime > Swiftness - you won't linger in and out of a courtroom > for years to come. You probably want to accept surrenders under most circumstances and make it more desirable than fighting to the last bullet. > There is virtually no deterrence for > Somali pirates. Most face no sort of punishment here > or in their homeland. Like I said, the choice of getting shot or spending the rest of their lives in jail, even a fairly posh jail ought to be a deterrent. The big question is whether they're going to get caught or not. If they do, neither of the two alternatives looks very attractive. |