From: 83LowRider on
Rob Kleinschmidt wrote:

> You probably want to accept surrenders under most
> circumstances and make it more desirable than fighting
> to the last bullet.

I think if you asked most of those in the military, they'd
rather fight it out and be rid of them. Gitmo has
released quite a few that have been found on the
battlefields again.

> Like I said, the choice of getting shot or spending
> the rest of their lives in jail, even a fairly posh jail
> ought to be a deterrent.

The number caught or getting shot is so miniscule that it is
probaby not a deterring factor.

> The big question is whether
> they're going to get caught or not. If they do, neither
> of the two alternatives looks very attractive.

If they feared any repercussions, they wouldn't still
be taking ships and hostages. Apparently not even
the stepped up patrols have made any difference.


From: 83LowRider on
Henry wrote:

> The innocent people were kidnapped first, then tortured. And
> although water boarding is indeed horrific torture, many other
> even more sadistic methods were used, often resulting in a slow
> agonizing death.

Indeed, but what does this have to do with Somali pirates?
Are you wanting to discuss military atrocities? They happen.
War is a horrible thing. Some are caught, some get away
with it.

> Their families often have no idea where they are, and
> being brutally tortured to death is not "properly fed
> and housed and given medical".

Any american who would torture another to death should
be help responsible. What else is there to say about it?

>> Have you seen the emaciated husband and wife taken from
>> their sailboat recently in Somalia?
>
> No. Have you seen or heard young boys scream in horror as
> they were beaten, burned, or sodomized by U.S. soldiers?
> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/7/14/193750/666

Sorry, I don't do dailykos, and if you want to debate how
horrible our military is, you should start another thread.


From: 83LowRider on
S'mee wrote:

>> Yup. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. (So what's yours?)
>
> He's a nutjob and dumber than a stump...ought to be a capital crime.

And you're pointing that at me? Funny, when just a paragraph below,
you expressed the same opinion.

>> The pirate was sentenced according to our present laws, and does
>> someone really have to explain to you why we don't summarily shoot or
>> hang people just because some yahoo thinks it would be a good idea?
>
> Heh, he should have never made it to shore...shot the bastards or hang
> 'em either is too good for a pirate.


From: 83LowRider on
Datesfat Chicks wrote:

> What I was trying to say is that someone who points a gun at another
> human being but doesn't shoot gives an incomplete view of their
> psychology. On the other hand, someone who shoots ... all my
> questions are answered.

If someone points a gun at you, you damn well better assume
they are willing to shoot you. If you are willing to allow that to
happen, you prolly deserve the consequences. The only
'incomplete view' you are likely to have is the fact that once
they pull the trigger, you'll never finish your thought.


From: Henry on
83LowRider wrote:
> Henry wrote:

>> The innocent people were kidnapped first, then tortured. And
>> although water boarding is indeed horrific torture, many other
>> even more sadistic methods were used, often resulting in a slow
>> agonizing death.

> Indeed, but what does this have to do with Somali pirates?

Well, it started out as a response to your belief that kidnappers
should be shot or hanged. That would include a lot of people, many
of them in the U.S. military.

>> No. Have you seen or heard young boys scream in horror as
>> they were beaten, burned, or sodomized by U.S. soldiers?
>> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/7/14/193750/666

> Sorry, I don't do dailykos,

Why's that?




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