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From: 83LowRider on 21 May 2010 08:40 Henry wrote: >>> Well, it started out as a response to your belief that kidnappers >>> should be shot or hanged. That would include a lot of people, many >>> of them in the U.S. military. > >> No, my response was to Somali pirates boarding yachts >> or ships or tankers at gunpoint. When speaking of these >> pirates, there is NO doubt as to their actions/intentions. > > Actually, your quote specifically stated anyone. Here it > is: > "He wasn't taken in for being stupid. He was arrested for > kidnapping and theft. He SHOULD BE shot or hanged, > as should any person trying to kidnap and hold innocent > civilians." And I'll stand by that. The three that were executed by snipers got what they deserved. Having arrested the fourth, he should also be tried and given the maximum sentence possible. If the death penalty is not an option for multiple kidnappings, it should be. > "Any person" would seem to include the members of the U.S. > military who kidnapped and tortured innocent civilians - > even children. Justice shouldn't be selective. But I don't > think they should shot or hanged. They should get a fair > trial. We have to be better than the dregs of humanity > and set an example for others. If someone in the military is conviced of a horrific crime then they should have to face whatever punishment that crime calls for. Murder is murder, even in war.
From: Beav on 21 May 2010 08:45 "Odinn" <odinn(a)atlantabiker.nonet> wrote in message news:aoeec7-0jl.ln1(a)jormungandr.atlantabiker.net... > .p.jm.(a)see_my_sig_for_address.com wrote: >> Here's a reply for you - he should have been executed. Or, at >> the very minimum, given life without parole. >> >> "With his friend looking on, Krueger pulled out a gun. Then, without >> warning, he started shooting." >> >> That gets you a death sentence, not 'a second chance at >> becoming a good citizen'. >> >> >> > > I am SO glad that you don't control how things work, or I would have been > dead 30+ years ago. Instead, because I was given a chance to change my > life, I'm still here. If you are (or were) a rifle wielding murderer, someone fucked up by not topping you. And there are some who'd hang you today for not snipping posts too, so think yourself lucky. -- Beav
From: 83LowRider on 21 May 2010 08:43 Beav wrote: > Thankfully, the Russians sent a rather pointed message to them very > recently. I can't imagine that pirates will be thinking "Russian > waters, now THAT'S the place to go to work" after recent events. And if they had pulled that same scenario in any number of other countries, they would have met that same fate. We have become weak in dealing with the more notorious of our criminals.
From: Henry on 21 May 2010 09:36 83LowRider wrote: > Henry wrote: >>>> Well, it started out as a response to your belief that kidnappers >>>> should be shot or hanged. That would include a lot of people, many >>>> of them in the U.S. military. >>> No, my response was to Somali pirates boarding yachts >>> or ships or tankers at gunpoint. When speaking of these >>> pirates, there is NO doubt as to their actions/intentions. >> Actually, your quote specifically stated anyone. Here it >> is: >> "He wasn't taken in for being stupid. He was arrested for >> kidnapping and theft. He SHOULD BE shot or hanged, >> as should any person trying to kidnap and hold innocent >> civilians." > > And I'll stand by that. The three that were executed by > snipers got what they deserved. Having arrested the > fourth, he should also be tried and given the maximum > sentence possible. If the death penalty is not an option > for multiple kidnappings, it should be. >> "Any person" would seem to include the members of the U.S. >> military who kidnapped and tortured innocent civilians - >> even children. Justice shouldn't be selective. But I don't >> think they should shot or hanged. They should get a fair >> trial. We have to be better than the dregs of humanity >> and set an example for others. > If someone in the military is conviced of a horrific crime > then they should have to face whatever punishment > that crime calls for. Murder is murder, even in war. I agree, but they deserve a fair trial *before* the punishment, and they should not be tortured. -- "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." -- Albert Einstein. http://911research.wtc7.net http://www.journalof911studies.com/ http://www.ae911truth.org
From: S'mee on 21 May 2010 10:19
On May 21, 6:35 am, "Beav" <beavis.origi...(a)ntlwoxorld.com> wrote: > "83LowRider" <a...(a)ddresswilldo.com> wrote in message > > news:ht02i5$6pu$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > > Twibil wrote: > > >> Of course, if we're going to start executing people for stupidity > >> you're likely to have bought into more trouble here than you really > >> wanted. > > > He wasn't taken in for being stupid. He was arrested for > > kidnapping and theft. He SHOULD BE shot or hanged, > > as should any person trying to kidnap and hold innocent > > civilians. Maybe then, those like him would get the message. > > Thankfully, the Russians sent a rather pointed message to them very > recently. I can't imagine that pirates will be thinking "Russian waters, now > THAT'S the place to go to work" after recent events. Yep, at least the Russians understand how to deal with pirates. Unlike everybody else it seems... |