From: Henry on 20 May 2010 14:59 Twitbull spewed: > On May 20, 3:23 am, "83LowRider" <a...(a)ddresswilldo.com> wrote: >> I find fault with many laws. What is legal >> does not always equate to what is right, or what should be. > Oh goody. From now on we all get to decide what's right or wrong > without bothering about those silly old laws. > (Can you say "anarchy"? I knew you could!) Damn, twit, you've taking your usual simple minded extremism to new levels of absurdity with that fragile little strawman. (hint for twitbull - finding fault with laws is not the same as breaking and/or ignoring all laws) -- "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." -- Albert Einstein. http://911research.wtc7.net http://www.journalof911studies.com/ http://www.ae911truth.org
From: S'mee on 20 May 2010 18:52 On May 20, 4:25 am, "83LowRider" <a...(a)ddresswilldo.com> wrote: > S'mee wrote: > >> Yup. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. (So what's yours?) > > > He's a nutjob and dumber than a stump...ought to be a capital crime. > > And you're pointing that at me? Funny, when just a paragraph below, > you expressed the same opinion. > > > > >> The pirate was sentenced according to our present laws, and does > >> someone really have to explain to you why we don't summarily shoot or > >> hang people just because some yahoo thinks it would be a good idea? > > > Heh, he should have never made it to shore...shot the bastards or hang > > 'em either is too good for a pirate.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Yes, but the difference is I'm an intelligent, wise, thoughtful person who isn't a socialist or some unamerican kook job. Bear that in mind...my opinion is based on several thousand years of legal precident. His is based on being a unthinking follower.
From: 83LowRider on 21 May 2010 07:43 Rob Kleinschmidt wrote: >> A slippery slope here.. depending on what you may term a >> battlefield. Regardless, many have been rearrested. >> <http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article559123...> > As I understand it, about 750 people have been held. > The largest number were captured by Pakistani rather > than U.S. or Nato forces. Some others were turned over > by Afghan warlords. Maybe 4-5 % were captured by > U.S. forces and maybe 4-5% were listed as captured > on the battlefield by U.S. allies. By U.S. records only > one was reported caputred on the battlefield by U.S. troops. > > If "battlefield is a slippery slope, you figure "returned to the > battlefield" might be every bit as slippery ? I really don't know where we're going, or what you'd like to specifically debate. I'll say it more plainly, as per the link I posted. At least 61 people previously detained at Gitmo have been re-arrested on terrorism charges. That is about as simple as it can be made. The military is far from perfect, as is any other organization that employs hundreds of thousands of people.
From: Henry on 21 May 2010 08:22 83LowRider wrote: > Henry wrote: >> Well, it started out as a response to your belief that kidnappers >> should be shot or hanged. That would include a lot of people, many >> of them in the U.S. military. > No, my response was to Somali pirates boarding yachts > or ships or tankers at gunpoint. When speaking of these > pirates, there is NO doubt as to their actions/intentions. Actually, your quote specifically stated anyone. Here it is: "He wasn't taken in for being stupid. He was arrested for kidnapping and theft. He SHOULD BE shot or hanged, as should any person trying to kidnap and hold innocent civilians." "Any person" would seem to include the members of the U.S. military who kidnapped and tortured innocent civilians - even children. Justice shouldn't be selective. But I don't think they should shot or hanged. They should get a fair trial. We have to be better than the dregs of humanity and set an example for others. -- "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." -- Albert Einstein. http://911research.wtc7.net http://www.journalof911studies.com/ http://www.ae911truth.org
From: Beav on 21 May 2010 08:35
"83LowRider" <any(a)ddresswilldo.com> wrote in message news:ht02i5$6pu$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > Twibil wrote: > >> Of course, if we're going to start executing people for stupidity >> you're likely to have bought into more trouble here than you really >> wanted. > > He wasn't taken in for being stupid. He was arrested for > kidnapping and theft. He SHOULD BE shot or hanged, > as should any person trying to kidnap and hold innocent > civilians. Maybe then, those like him would get the message. Thankfully, the Russians sent a rather pointed message to them very recently. I can't imagine that pirates will be thinking "Russian waters, now THAT'S the place to go to work" after recent events. -- Beav |