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From: ogden on 3 Aug 2010 06:41 Ace wrote: > unless this has been changed, and it wouldn't surprise me if it had, > it also allows residents who are temporarily living away from home, > like students in digs, to remain covered on their parents' license. http://www.tv-l.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one/for-your-home/students-aud1/ -- ogden | gsxr1000 | ktm duke ii
From: wessie on 3 Aug 2010 06:53 "Hog" <sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote in news:4c57e29f$0$12161$fa0fcedb(a)news.zen.co.uk: > boots wrote: >> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 23:30:33 +0000 (UTC) in uk.rec.motorcycles, SIRPip >> says: >> >>> Hog wrote: >>> >>>> Champ wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 14:06:17 +0100, "Hog" >>>>> <sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The licence fee is patently is not a good idea. It puts excessive >>>>>> numbers of people in Court and in jail for non payment of fines. >>>>>> Not to mention the costs of reminders and enforcement. >>>>> >>>>> It's a terrible system. But, for raising money to fund TV >>>>> production, it's better than all the alternatives. >>>> >>>> But the consequences are unacceptable. >>>> Non payment of TV licence fines is the largest group of single >>>> parent females in jail. >>> >>> Post proof of that, please. >> >> Might be difficult. > > You would start here: > http://bjc.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/40/3/414 > an essay called Gender, Crime Poverty in England & Wales > > It made some headlines early in this year IIRC > > It has also been addressed in the House of Commons if you want to > search Hansard but my recollection is that over 35% of *all* women > prosecuted for an offence were charged with TV licencing evasion. Fill > yer boots on that statistic. > so you are backing up your assertion with an article based on a 16 year old set of data? As most women have sentences shorter than 6 months, don't you think it might be a little out of date? According to recent Bromley Briefings, in 2008 the most common resean for incarceration for a female prisoner was a drug related offence. In 2006 it was theft/handling stolen goods. From this, it is evident that making any sort of generalisation without a time reference and that most crime reports talk about trends rather than absolutes. There doesn't appear to be any statistic that separates single mothers from the parent category. http://www.womeninprison.org.uk/statistics.php
From: SIRPip on 3 Aug 2010 07:00 Hog wrote: > boots wrote: > > On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 23:30:33 +0000 (UTC) in uk.rec.motorcycles, > > SIRPip says: > > > > > Hog wrote: > > > > But the consequences are unacceptable. > > > > Non payment of TV licence fines is the largest group of single > > > > parent females in jail. > > > > > > Post proof of that, please. > > > > Might be difficult. > > You would start here: > http://bjc.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/40/3/414 > an essay called Gender, Crime Poverty in England & Wales Yeah, right. You pay the 25 dollars and I'll have a gander at it. > > It made some headlines early in this year IIRC Not proof. > > It has also been addressed in the House of Commons if you want to > search Hansard but my recollection is that over 35% of all women > prosecuted for an offence were charged with TV licencing evasion. > Fill yer boots on that statistic. Neither is that proof. You're talking bollocks. -- SIRPip : B12
From: Jim on 3 Aug 2010 07:10 On 03/08/10 10:34, Hog wrote: > It has also been addressed in the House of Commons if you want to search > Hansard but my recollection is that over 35% of *all* women prosecuted for > an offence were charged with TV licencing evasion. Fill yer boots on that > statistic. Closest I could find was this: http://www.theyworkforyou.com/debate/?id=2000-02-22a.1385.1 It wouldn't be the first time that an MP has cited an incorrect statistic to back up an argument.
From: Catman on 3 Aug 2010 07:29
SIRPip wrote: > darsy wrote: > >> Speaking of R4, did you hear "Just a Minute" last night? Nicholas >> Parsons is beyond senile now. >> >> Giles Brandreth interrupted himself, and Nicholas got very confused >> and awarded the continuation to Paul Merton, much to Paul Merton's >> confusion. This confusion then prompted Jenny Eclair to interrupt on >> the grounds of "deviation", which eventually ended up with Nicholas >> awarding the continuation to Graham Norton. > > I wonder sometimes if I'm old enough to listen to R4. Looking at the > list of participants above, I'm glad to remain a R2 devotee as Paul > Merton is the only name in there that I would give ear room to. > I'm not a great fan of Just a Minute. I am currently listening to 'I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue', giggling wildly. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qnwb I'd have thought you'd like it. The rest of the programming is at least mostly intelligent, although there are some exceptions [1]. [1] Any Answers. -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 GTV TS GT 3.2 V6 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk |