Drain plug stripped--self-tapping plug?
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From: Carlin on 16 Aug 2007 13:17 Hello, I have a 2006 Yamaha FZ6 and decided to do an oil change myself for the first time. It was a struggle to get that oil filter off, but I finally put a screwdriver through it and succeeded. However, I ended up striping the oil pan with the drain plug. *sigh* I talked to the local Yamaha dealer and they said that I need to replace the oil pan, which would cost nearly $300 including parts and labor. (They sell the part for about $45 more than RonAyers.com, and wouldn't budge on that price, along with $90/hr for 1.5 hrs.) He recommend against Helicoils or the like, but I'm not sure why. In doing some web research, I've read about self-tapping drain plugs for cars and bikes alike, and people seem to accept that this is a simple, cheap, functional alternative to replacing the pan. Another option is a special expanding rubber plug. Are these viable options for the long term, or are they just stop-gap solutions? I have the service manual for this bike, and it doesn't seem *too* complicated to replace the pan if I'm not missing something. Take off the exhaust assembly, then I can remove the oil pan itself. I believe the only complication on the oil pan that I have to also remove is the oil level sensor. I believe I can leave all the other stuff in that area alone (except I need to replace the gasket). Should it be pretty simple? I don't have much experience with mechanics, but am cautiously willing to learn. (I just take a long time :-) ) Any insight would be appreciated! Thanks, Carlin
From: Albrecht via MotorcycleKB.com on 16 Aug 2007 13:45 Carlin wrote: >Any insight would be appreciated! It really goes against my nature to say this, but, after what you did to the oil drain plug, you're likely to ruin the lower crankcase replacing the oil pan, so leave the job to the professionals. -- Message posted via MotorcycleKB.com http://www.motorcyclekb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/tech/200708/1
From: Fake Name on 16 Aug 2007 15:36 On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:45:57 GMT, "Albrecht via MotorcycleKB.com" <u33665(a)uwe> wrote: >Carlin wrote: > >>Any insight would be appreciated! > >It really goes against my nature to say this, but, after what you did to the >oil drain plug, you're likely to ruin the lower crankcase replacing the oil >pan, so leave the job to the professionals. I agree with you, Albrecht. But since the pan is AFU already I think he should give the automotive self tapping plug a shot.
From: Anonymous on 16 Aug 2007 14:43 "Albrecht via MotorcycleKB.com" <u33665(a)uwe> wrote in message news:76ca781e744e6(a)uwe... > Carlin wrote: > >>Any insight would be appreciated! > > It really goes against my nature to say this, but, after what you did to > the > oil drain plug, you're likely to ruin the lower crankcase replacing the > oil > pan, so leave the job to the professionals. > > -- Yeah, I'll agree completely. Just exactly, how did he strip the drain plug? Certainly, this could have only been an accident. After all, anyone willing to drive a screwdriver through an oil filter for removal, surely would exercise the greatest caution with the drain plug. OP.... Take the bike to the dealer, pony up the bux to get it fixed right, and retire from the oil change trade. Gary > Message posted via MotorcycleKB.com > http://www.motorcyclekb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/tech/200708/1 >
From: The Older Gentleman on 16 Aug 2007 14:46
Carlin <nospam(a)nospam.com> wrote: > Are these viable options for the long term, or are they just stop-gap > solutions? I've had a helicoil put in a stripped sump bolt. No worries. best of all, when I bought a Honda 125 single that turned out to have a stripped sump bolt (held in place with glue and tape....), I got an engineering shop to build up the area around the drain hole with alloy weld, and then drill and re-tap for the plug (the 125 doesn't have a separate sump pan, you see - the drian bolt goes straight into the crankcase. Cost me the equivalent of about 70 bucks, admittedly some years ago. Don't bother removing the sump pan. Any competent engineer can put in a helicoil with it in situ. It'll cost a few dollars and yes, it will be a permanent repair. -- BMW K1100LT 750SS CB400F CD250 SL125 GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3 BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells..... |