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From: The Older Gentleman on 28 May 2010 02:35 don (Calgary) <hd.flhr(a)telus.net> wrote: > >As I said elsewhere, I suspect that the fingers will start pointing more > >at the regulatory authorities soon. Hell, gotta blame someone... BP is > >playing a very clever game IMHO. > > I doubt the media will allow Obama to let the focus move off BP. Don't be silly. BP will still be in the firing line, but the GAP (Great American Public) and GAM (Great American Media) will find other targets because, hey, that's what sells. And, lo and behold, in my breakfast Times this morning, I read that Elizabeth Birnbaum, head of the Minerals management Service that regulates offshore drilling, has resigned. Funny, that. What did I write a couple of days ago? >The > regulators are a minor player in this game. The major figures are, and > will be BP and Obama. That's not going to change. It's changing already. See above. How many senior BP resignations have there been? > I don't like BP's > chances. Not good. But they are not going to be the only targets. And the fact that what I forecast has already started to happen (quicker than I anticipated, actually) bears that out. -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
From: don (Calgary) on 28 May 2010 09:40 On Fri, 28 May 2010 07:35:43 +0100, totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman) wrote: >don (Calgary) <hd.flhr(a)telus.net> wrote: > >> >As I said elsewhere, I suspect that the fingers will start pointing more >> >at the regulatory authorities soon. Hell, gotta blame someone... BP is >> >playing a very clever game IMHO. >> >> I doubt the media will allow Obama to let the focus move off BP. > >Don't be silly. BP will still be in the firing line, but the GAP (Great >American Public) and GAM (Great American Media) will find other targets >because, hey, that's what sells. > >And, lo and behold, in my breakfast Times this morning, I read that >Elizabeth Birnbaum, head of the Minerals management Service that >regulates offshore drilling, has resigned. > >Funny, that. What did I write a couple of days ago? > > >>The >> regulators are a minor player in this game. The major figures are, and >> will be BP and Obama. That's not going to change. > >It's changing already. See above. How many senior BP resignations have >there been? > >> I don't like BP's >> chances. > >Not good. But they are not going to be the only targets. And the fact >that what I forecast has already started to happen (quicker than I >anticipated, actually) bears that out. It is BP that will be held responsible for this disaster. It is BP that will have to pay millions/billons in compensation and fines. It is BP that will be required to clean the mess up and it is the executives of BP that may face criminal charges. The focus of the US media is approximately 65% BP & the spill, 25% US government, 8% miscellaneous impacts and maybe 2% on the regulators. I am sure BP will try to spin the blame on the regulators, and I am also sure the British media will focus on that angle, but the British Media, and the UK in general, will have zero influence on how this disaster plays out. The only thing that will move the focus off BP will be active war breaking out between North and South Korea. All of that said once they have the well capped there will be multi pronged investigations into this disaster. They will probably take years to sort out. Criminal prosecutions are a definite possibility. The specifications and regulatory process will be examined to determine what could have been done to mitigate the damages. Even though we tend to eat our young in these self examination processes, none of the regulator's actions will mitigate BP's responsibilities or move the focus of the investigations off BP or the US government.
From: TOG on 28 May 2010 10:29 On 28 May, 14:40, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote: > It is BP that will be held responsible for this disaster. It is BP > that will have to pay millions/billons in compensation and fines. It > is BP that will be required to clean the mess up and it is the > executives of BP that may face criminal charges. > > The focus of the US media is approximately 65% BP & the spill, 25% US > government, 8% miscellaneous impacts and maybe 2% on the regulators. > So, already, we're more than one-third blaming people other than BP. Not arguing that BP will cop the flak, but people *will* be flinging mud at others, and they will be flinging *more* of it, and you can watch the lawsuits rolling in, and they won't just be against BP. P will cop most, but not all. And then, when the dust has settled, it'll happen again. Somewhere else. Slightly different angle, circumstances, events, whatever, but there'll be another leak, spill, tanker hitting rocks, and the same thing will start all over again. It's the way the world turns. > I am sure BP will try to spin the blame on the regulators, I think they're doing a very good job of just clamming up and letting the yammerers do that themselves, actually. > and I am > also sure the British media will focus on that angle, You'd be wrong there, probably. You're projecting your wish- fulfilment, I'm afraid. > but the British > Media, and the UK in general, will have zero influence on how this > disaster plays out. Of course they will. They'll leave that to the cash-hungry litigants and the even more cash-hungry lawyers. > > The only thing that will move the focus off BP will be active war > breaking out between North and South Korea. Wrong. It'll be relegated to the back pages quicker than you think. It'll pop up again on the fronts from time to time, when a juicy revelation emerges in the post-mortem. > > All of that said once they have the well capped there will be multi > pronged investigations into this disaster. Yes >They will probably take > years to sort out. Oh yes. Guess who'll benefit? Criminal prosecutions are a definite possibility. "A definite possibility" LOL. And you think you don't have communication problems :-) Or did you mean "probably definite"? > > The specifications and regulatory process will be examined to > determine what could have been done to mitigate the damages. Even > though we tend to eat our young in these self examination processes, > none of the regulator's actions will mitigate BP's responsibilities or > move the focus of the investigations off BP or the US government Yes, they will. The regulators will inevitably take some responsibility, and the spotlight will inevitably fall on them *because that is what always happens*.
From: don (Calgary) on 31 May 2010 21:57 On Fri, 28 May 2010 07:29:19 -0700 (PDT), "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > >> It is BP that will be held responsible for this disaster. It is BP >> that will have to pay millions/billons in compensation and fines. It >> is BP that will be required to clean the mess up and it is the >> executives of BP that may face criminal charges. >> >> The focus of the US media is approximately 65% BP & the spill, 25% US >> government, 8% miscellaneous impacts and maybe 2% on the regulators. >> >So, already, we're more than one-third blaming people other than BP. Where did I say anything about blame being focused on anyone other than BP. You have a reading comprehension problem.
From: The Older Gentleman on 1 Jun 2010 02:07
don (Calgary) <hd.flhr(a)telus.net> wrote: > Where did I say anything about blame being focused on anyone other > than BP. You're doing it agan, you know. You're inventing things. > > You have a reading comprehension problem. Bwaaahahahahahahaha! No, you do, sweetie. You've just done *exactly* the same thing you always do, and which others have gently chided you for. Damn, but you're stupid. <Thinks> Naw, you must know what you're doing by now, so you're just being dishonest. -- BMW K1100LT Ducati 750SS Honda CB400F Triumph Street Triple Suzuki TS250ER GN250 Damn, back to six bikes! Try Googling before asking a damn silly question. chateau dot murray at idnet dot com |