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From: don (Calgary) on 1 Jun 2010 08:31 On Fri, 28 May 2010 07:29:19 -0700 (PDT), "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >On 28 May, 14:40, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > >> It is BP that will be held responsible for this disaster. It is BP >> that will have to pay millions/billons in compensation and fines. It >> is BP that will be required to clean the mess up and it is the >> executives of BP that may face criminal charges. >> >> The focus of the US media is approximately 65% BP & the spill, 25% US >> government, 8% miscellaneous impacts and maybe 2% on the regulators. >> >So, already, we're more than one-third blaming people other than BP. >Not arguing that BP will cop the flak, but people *will* be flinging >mud at others, and they will be flinging *more* of it, and you can >watch the lawsuits rolling in, and they won't just be against BP. P >will cop most, but not all. Once again, free of any of your selective snipping , where did I suggest anyone other than BP is being blamed for this disaster? Or should I just add focus to the many, many words you fail to understand. > >And then, when the dust has settled, it'll happen again. Somewhere >else. Slightly different angle, circumstances, events, whatever, but >there'll be another leak, spill, tanker hitting rocks, and the same >thing will start all over again. It's the way the world turns. > > >> I am sure BP will try to spin the blame on the regulators, > >I think they're doing a very good job of just clamming up and letting >the yammerers do that themselves, actually. > > >> and I am >> also sure the British media will focus on that angle, > >You'd be wrong there, probably. You're projecting your wish- >fulfilment, I'm afraid. > > >> but the British >> Media, and the UK in general, will have zero influence on how this >> disaster plays out. > >Of course they will. They'll leave that to the cash-hungry litigants >and the even more cash-hungry lawyers. >> > >> The only thing that will move the focus off BP will be active war >> breaking out between North and South Korea. > >Wrong. It'll be relegated to the back pages quicker than you think. >It'll pop up again on the fronts from time to time, when a juicy >revelation emerges in the post-mortem. > >> >> All of that said once they have the well capped there will be multi >> pronged investigations into this disaster. > >Yes > >>They will probably take >> years to sort out. > >Oh yes. Guess who'll benefit? > >Criminal prosecutions are a definite possibility. > >"A definite possibility" LOL. And you think you don't have >communication problems :-) Or did you mean "probably definite"? > >> >> The specifications and regulatory process will be examined to >> determine what could have been done to mitigate the damages. Even >> though we tend to eat our young in these self examination processes, >> none of the regulator's actions will mitigate BP's responsibilities or >> move the focus of the investigations off BP or the US government > >Yes, they will. The regulators will inevitably take some >responsibility, and the spotlight will inevitably fall on them >*because that is what always happens*.
From: S'mee on 1 Jun 2010 08:39 On Jun 1, 6:31 am, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote: > On Fri, 28 May 2010 07:29:19 -0700 (PDT), "TOG(a)Toil" > > > > > > <totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >On 28 May, 14:40, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote: > > >> It is BP that will be held responsible for this disaster. It is BP > >> that will have to pay millions/billons in compensation and fines. It > >> is BP that will be required to clean the mess up and it is the > >> executives of BP that may face criminal charges. > > >> The focus of the US media is approximately 65% BP & the spill, 25% US > >> government, 8% miscellaneous impacts and maybe 2% on the regulators. > > >So, already, we're more than one-third blaming people other than BP. > >Not arguing that BP will cop the flak, but people *will* be flinging > >mud at others, and they will be flinging *more* of it, and you can > >watch the lawsuits rolling in, and they won't just be against BP. P > >will cop most, but not all. > > Once again, free of any of your selective snipping , where did I > suggest anyone other than BP is being blamed for this disaster? > > Or should I just add focus to the many, many words you fail to > understand. > > > > > > >And then, when the dust has settled, it'll happen again. Somewhere > >else. Slightly different angle, circumstances, events, whatever, but > >there'll be another leak, spill, tanker hitting rocks, and the same > >thing will start all over again. It's the way the world turns. > > >> I am sure BP will try to spin the blame on the regulators, > > >I think they're doing a very good job of just clamming up and letting > >the yammerers do that themselves, actually. > > >> and I am > >> also sure the British media will focus on that angle, > > >You'd be wrong there, probably. You're projecting your wish- > >fulfilment, I'm afraid. > > >> but the British > >> Media, and the UK in general, will have zero influence on how this > >> disaster plays out. > > >Of course they will. They'll leave that to the cash-hungry litigants > >and the even more cash-hungry lawyers. > > >> The only thing that will move the focus off BP will be active war > >> breaking out between North and South Korea. > > >Wrong. It'll be relegated to the back pages quicker than you think. > >It'll pop up again on the fronts from time to time, when a juicy > >revelation emerges in the post-mortem. > > >> All of that said once they have the well capped there will be multi > >> pronged investigations into this disaster. > > >Yes > > >>They will probably take > >> years to sort out. > > >Oh yes. Guess who'll benefit? > > >Criminal prosecutions are a definite possibility. > > >"A definite possibility" LOL. And you think you don't have > >communication problems :-) Or did you mean "probably definite"? > > >> The specifications and regulatory process will be examined to > >> determine what could have been done to mitigate the damages. Even > >> though we tend to eat our young in these self examination processes, > >> none of the regulator's actions will mitigate BP's responsibilities or > >> move the focus of the investigations off BP or the US government > > >Yes, they will. The regulators will inevitably take some > >responsibility, and the spotlight will inevitably fall on them > >*because that is what always happens*.- Hide quoted text - > Well the us government and it's regulators for one...they are taking quiet a bit of blame.
From: TOG on 1 Jun 2010 09:03 On 1 June, 13:31, "don (Calgary)" <hd.f...(a)telus.net> wrote: > Once again, free of any of your selective snipping , where did I > suggest anyone other than BP is being blamed for this disaster? > > Or should I just add focus to the many, many words you fail to > understand. > Nowhere. And where have *I* said that you said that? Nowhere. Once again, you invent things. This is all part of your delusional construct: you actually claim that people said things, in order to refute them and thereby somehow convince yourself that you're "right". When, in fact, you look a prawn. Oh, you didn't say that the spill was caused by Martians, either, just in case you decide to try that.... Now, plenty of people have commented on this peculiarity of yours, Were I in your shoes, I'd wonder what I was doing wrong and try to sort it, because not all those who have flagged this up can be mistaken.....
From: TOG on 1 Jun 2010 09:04 On 1 June, 13:39, "S'mee" <stevenkei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >Yes, they will. The regulators will inevitably take some > > >responsibility, and the spotlight will inevitably fall on them > > >*because that is what always happens*.- Hide quoted text - > > Well the us government and it's regulators for one...they are taking > quiet a bit of blame. Yup. And they'll cop more. *Because that is what always happens*. Hell, if *you* can understand it.... ;-)
From: S'mee on 1 Jun 2010 14:49
On Jun 1, 7:04 am, "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > On 1 June, 13:39, "S'mee" <stevenkei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > >Yes, they will. The regulators will inevitably take some > > > >responsibility, and the spotlight will inevitably fall on them > > > >*because that is what always happens*.- Hide quoted text - > > > Well the us government and it's regulators for one...they are taking > > quiet a bit of blame. > > Yup. And they'll cop more. *Because that is what always happens*. > Hell, if *you* can understand it.... ;-) You forget I was part of that large group of rough young men that more often than not FIXED messes the government made. 8^\ Dumb asses should have back Ho not the french. |