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From: Bruce Jensen on 5 Mar 2010 16:51 On Mar 5, 1:39 pm, krusty kritter <breoganmacbr...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Mar 5, 9:48 am, Bruce Jensen <bpnjen...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Moreover, I know plenty of trashy white people who have wrecked their > > apartments and screwed up their yards and messed up their > > neighborhoods - > > Poor White people in America are poor because they were thrown out of > the British Isles because they were poor, or they left Germany to > avoid being drafted into the army to fight during the Napoleonic Wars > or after the 1848 Revolution. > > Being drafted into the army was a death sentence for German youth, and > they would say their final goodbyes to their families before they > joined their units. > > German soldiers knew they weren't coming home. > > > It happens here in California > > You can't tell *me* anything about poor Whites. > > The poor White people in California are mostly descendants of people > who were exiled from the British Isles for being poor, or for being in > the way of the industrial revolution. The landlords who evicted them > from their cottages were the descendants of Norman/French nobility > who'd been awarded the lands because of loyalty to some duke or count > who'd kissed the king's foot in homage. > > I'm descended directly from the Englishman who was the first elected > official of the Massachusetts Bay colony. Besides obtaining permission > from the Indians to establish the MBC, he surveyed the boundary > between the MBC and the Plymouth Colony. He took the oath of loyalty > to the MBC as a Free Man about 1631. > > His 4 great grandson somehow got connected with an exile from the > Scottish highlands in Pennsylvania, where the highlanders were sent to > form a buffer between the established English colonists. Other Scots > emigrated to the Carolinas, where they thought they'd be accepted > because of their support of > king Charles, but they were told they could eat dirt or starve. > > The exiled highlander in Pennsylvania was my 3 great grandfather and > my line of descent is a cross between exiled Scots and rich Yankees. > > The Scots were thought to be too uncouth for association with the > English, but that was no different from the way they were treated ever > since the Norman/French and their English allies invaded Scotland in > the 14th century under command of Edward Longshanks. > > Everybody has seen "Braveheart." My exiled Scots highlander ancestor > was the cousin of both William Wallace, and Robert the Bruce, who was > made out to be a traitor in the movie. > > After Scotland gained its "independence," there were still the wars of > religion and > the wars of dynastic succession amongst the various royal houses. > > Another umpteen great grandsire was an exiled Scots Covenanter. The > Covenanters signed an oath in their own blood to support king Charles > and he agreed to support presbyterianism, but reneged upon the offer. > > The Scots Covenanters were the original "red necks." They wore a piece > of red cloth around their necks to signify their loyalty to king and > covenant. > > But thousands of Covenanters were murdered by the allies of the Church > of England. Sir Walter Scott wrote a book about the killings, it's > called "Old Mortality." > > My red neck Covenanter ancestor emigrated to western Pennsylvania > too... > > The Scots who were told to eat dirt or starve in the Carolinas moved > into the foothills of the Appalachians and finally across the Blue > Ridge into Kentucky and Tennessee, where they were trapped in a > cultural backwater for more than a century. > > They supported themselves by making moonshine and raising hogs. But, > as the west opened up, the "red necks" moved into the new territories > and tried to homestead. > > They always found the same situation: rich White people had gotten > there first, and looked down their noses at the newcomers. > > John Steinbeck's Pulitzer prize-winning novel, "Grapes of Wrath," is > about what happened here in this county when the US government > deported the illegal alien Mexicans and the Western Growers > Association needed agricultural laborers to pick their crops but > didn't want to pay a living wage to the "red necks", whom they called > "fruit tramps." > > and I'll be happy to > > > take you on a behind-the-scenes tour of my squeaky clean historic > > white-bread Massachusetts hometown sometime and show you. One > > unsanitary Yankee dump after another. > > Hey, don't badmouth Massachusetts Yankees. My ancestors founded > Massachusetts, and, if you'll name a town, I can probably name an > ancestor that lived there in the 17th century. > > > Scapegoating and broadbrushing one or another group does no good, does > > not solve problems, does not further your cause. Saying ridiculous > > things like "California ought to round 'em up and deport them" when > > the State of California has no such legal authority is also not > > helpful. > > I agree, our immigration laws should be staunchly applied > > > and illegal aliens should be removed; but this nation has plenty of > > other problems, spurred by many people of no particular descent, that > > make this one look like a piker, and these problems threaten to > > bankrupt us in numerous ways. > > Watch what you say! "Piker" is what the poor red necks were called > when they > moved across the west looking for homestead land. > > They could see Pikes peak from the flatlands of Kansas and knew they > were getting close to a place they thought they could settle down. My > great grandfather was a "piker" who settled his family in Colorado and > I still have lots of relatives there. > > "Pikers" who arrived in California's central valley 100 years ago > tried to live like they'd lived in Appalachia, Kentucky and Tennessee. > > The rich White lawyers and bankers who got to California first cheated > the "pikers" out of whatever homestead land they'd managed to acquire. > > There were lots of red necks raising hogs in the oak forests along the > Kaweah river before the rich farmers cut the 400 square mile forest > down and drained the huge lake in the middle of the San Joaquin > valley. > > If you've been watching Fox News, you've heard Sean Hannity ranting > and raving about the "dustbowl" conditions in "The Valley that Hope > Forgot." > > It's a bunch of bullshit, the greedy rich White farmers drained the > lake and diverted all the water from the rivers coming down from the > Sierra Nevada and turned the valley into a Mexican-infested desert! You sound like a broken record - just as repetitious and just as obsolete. For a guy who is so damn proud of his heritage, assuming any of it is true, you're pretty anonymous, too. Your credibility here is dead. Bruce Jensen
From: krusty kritter on 5 Mar 2010 16:54 On Mar 5, 10:38 am, Bruce Jensen <bpnjen...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > :-) Some people go through blaming the nearest convenient weak link, > picking and choosing from history what fits their world view and > ignoring the rest. It's not peculiar to any one political persuasion, > interest group or race - almost anyone can be, and sometimes is, > guilty of this error. I know I have been. I just do my best to be as > objective as possible. So. You don't stand up for your own kind, preferring instead to accept the revisionist history of radical liberals. You probably don't care what happens to America, because you believe in "human rights" instead of the natural rights of Americans whose ancestors fought and died for the right to have their own country, where they had the liberty to say what they believed was true and worship God as they believed Him to be.
From: Road Glidin' Don on 5 Mar 2010 17:11 On Mar 5, 2:51 pm, Bruce Jensen <bpnjen...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Mar 5, 1:39 pm, krusty kritter <breoganmacbr...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 5, 9:48 am, Bruce Jensen <bpnjen...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Moreover, I know plenty of trashy white people who have wrecked their > > > apartments and screwed up their yards and messed up their > > > neighborhoods - > > > Poor White people in America are poor because they were thrown out of > > the British Isles because they were poor, or they left Germany to > > avoid being drafted into the army to fight during the Napoleonic Wars > > or after the 1848 Revolution. > > > Being drafted into the army was a death sentence for German youth, and > > they would say their final goodbyes to their families before they > > joined their units. > > > German soldiers knew they weren't coming home. > > > > It happens here in California > > > You can't tell *me* anything about poor Whites. > > > The poor White people in California are mostly descendants of people > > who were exiled from the British Isles for being poor, or for being in > > the way of the industrial revolution. The landlords who evicted them > > from their cottages were the descendants of Norman/French nobility > > who'd been awarded the lands because of loyalty to some duke or count > > who'd kissed the king's foot in homage. > > > I'm descended directly from the Englishman who was the first elected > > official of the Massachusetts Bay colony. Besides obtaining permission > > from the Indians to establish the MBC, he surveyed the boundary > > between the MBC and the Plymouth Colony. He took the oath of loyalty > > to the MBC as a Free Man about 1631. > > > His 4 great grandson somehow got connected with an exile from the > > Scottish highlands in Pennsylvania, where the highlanders were sent to > > form a buffer between the established English colonists. Other Scots > > emigrated to the Carolinas, where they thought they'd be accepted > > because of their support of > > king Charles, but they were told they could eat dirt or starve. > > > The exiled highlander in Pennsylvania was my 3 great grandfather and > > my line of descent is a cross between exiled Scots and rich Yankees. > > > The Scots were thought to be too uncouth for association with the > > English, but that was no different from the way they were treated ever > > since the Norman/French and their English allies invaded Scotland in > > the 14th century under command of Edward Longshanks. > > > Everybody has seen "Braveheart." My exiled Scots highlander ancestor > > was the cousin of both William Wallace, and Robert the Bruce, who was > > made out to be a traitor in the movie. > > > After Scotland gained its "independence," there were still the wars of > > religion and > > the wars of dynastic succession amongst the various royal houses. > > > Another umpteen great grandsire was an exiled Scots Covenanter. The > > Covenanters signed an oath in their own blood to support king Charles > > and he agreed to support presbyterianism, but reneged upon the offer. > > > The Scots Covenanters were the original "red necks." They wore a piece > > of red cloth around their necks to signify their loyalty to king and > > covenant. > > > But thousands of Covenanters were murdered by the allies of the Church > > of England. Sir Walter Scott wrote a book about the killings, it's > > called "Old Mortality." > > > My red neck Covenanter ancestor emigrated to western Pennsylvania > > too... > > > The Scots who were told to eat dirt or starve in the Carolinas moved > > into the foothills of the Appalachians and finally across the Blue > > Ridge into Kentucky and Tennessee, where they were trapped in a > > cultural backwater for more than a century. > > > They supported themselves by making moonshine and raising hogs. But, > > as the west opened up, the "red necks" moved into the new territories > > and tried to homestead. > > > They always found the same situation: rich White people had gotten > > there first, and looked down their noses at the newcomers. > > > John Steinbeck's Pulitzer prize-winning novel, "Grapes of Wrath," is > > about what happened here in this county when the US government > > deported the illegal alien Mexicans and the Western Growers > > Association needed agricultural laborers to pick their crops but > > didn't want to pay a living wage to the "red necks", whom they called > > "fruit tramps." > > > and I'll be happy to > > > > take you on a behind-the-scenes tour of my squeaky clean historic > > > white-bread Massachusetts hometown sometime and show you. One > > > unsanitary Yankee dump after another. > > > Hey, don't badmouth Massachusetts Yankees. My ancestors founded > > Massachusetts, and, if you'll name a town, I can probably name an > > ancestor that lived there in the 17th century. > > > > Scapegoating and broadbrushing one or another group does no good, does > > > not solve problems, does not further your cause. Saying ridiculous > > > things like "California ought to round 'em up and deport them" when > > > the State of California has no such legal authority is also not > > > helpful. > > > I agree, our immigration laws should be staunchly applied > > > > and illegal aliens should be removed; but this nation has plenty of > > > other problems, spurred by many people of no particular descent, that > > > make this one look like a piker, and these problems threaten to > > > bankrupt us in numerous ways. > > > Watch what you say! "Piker" is what the poor red necks were called > > when they > > moved across the west looking for homestead land. > > > They could see Pikes peak from the flatlands of Kansas and knew they > > were getting close to a place they thought they could settle down. My > > great grandfather was a "piker" who settled his family in Colorado and > > I still have lots of relatives there. > > > "Pikers" who arrived in California's central valley 100 years ago > > tried to live like they'd lived in Appalachia, Kentucky and Tennessee. > > > The rich White lawyers and bankers who got to California first cheated > > the "pikers" out of whatever homestead land they'd managed to acquire. > > > There were lots of red necks raising hogs in the oak forests along the > > Kaweah river before the rich farmers cut the 400 square mile forest > > down and drained the huge lake in the middle of the San Joaquin > > valley. > > > If you've been watching Fox News, you've heard Sean Hannity ranting > > and raving about the "dustbowl" conditions in "The Valley that Hope > > Forgot." > > > It's a bunch of bullshit, the greedy rich White farmers drained the > > lake and diverted all the water from the rivers coming down from the > > Sierra Nevada and turned the valley into a Mexican-infested desert! > > You sound like a broken record - just as repetitious and just as > obsolete. > > For a guy who is so damn proud of his heritage, assuming any of it is > true, you're pretty anonymous, too. > > Your credibility here is dead. Heh, heh. Oh yeah, he's a real hero, alright. Claims to ride a motorcycle but is scared to death of meeting anyone in person, in case news gets out where his trailer is parked.
From: S'mee on 5 Mar 2010 18:12 On Mar 5, 3:11 pm, "Road Glidin' Don" <d.lan...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 5, 2:51 pm, Bruce Jensen <bpnjen...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 5, 1:39 pm, krusty kritter <breoganmacbr...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Mar 5, 9:48 am, Bruce Jensen <bpnjen...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > Moreover, I know plenty of trashy white people who have wrecked their > > > > apartments and screwed up their yards and messed up their > > > > neighborhoods - > > > > Poor White people in America are poor because they were thrown out of > > > the British Isles because they were poor, or they left Germany to > > > avoid being drafted into the army to fight during the Napoleonic Wars > > > or after the 1848 Revolution. > > > > Being drafted into the army was a death sentence for German youth, and > > > they would say their final goodbyes to their families before they > > > joined their units. > > > > German soldiers knew they weren't coming home. > > > > > It happens here in California > > > > You can't tell *me* anything about poor Whites. > > > > The poor White people in California are mostly descendants of people > > > who were exiled from the British Isles for being poor, or for being in > > > the way of the industrial revolution. The landlords who evicted them > > > from their cottages were the descendants of Norman/French nobility > > > who'd been awarded the lands because of loyalty to some duke or count > > > who'd kissed the king's foot in homage. > > > > I'm descended directly from the Englishman who was the first elected > > > official of the Massachusetts Bay colony. Besides obtaining permission > > > from the Indians to establish the MBC, he surveyed the boundary > > > between the MBC and the Plymouth Colony. He took the oath of loyalty > > > to the MBC as a Free Man about 1631. > > > > His 4 great grandson somehow got connected with an exile from the > > > Scottish highlands in Pennsylvania, where the highlanders were sent to > > > form a buffer between the established English colonists. Other Scots > > > emigrated to the Carolinas, where they thought they'd be accepted > > > because of their support of > > > king Charles, but they were told they could eat dirt or starve. > > > > The exiled highlander in Pennsylvania was my 3 great grandfather and > > > my line of descent is a cross between exiled Scots and rich Yankees. > > > > The Scots were thought to be too uncouth for association with the > > > English, but that was no different from the way they were treated ever > > > since the Norman/French and their English allies invaded Scotland in > > > the 14th century under command of Edward Longshanks. > > > > Everybody has seen "Braveheart." My exiled Scots highlander ancestor > > > was the cousin of both William Wallace, and Robert the Bruce, who was > > > made out to be a traitor in the movie. > > > > After Scotland gained its "independence," there were still the wars of > > > religion and > > > the wars of dynastic succession amongst the various royal houses. > > > > Another umpteen great grandsire was an exiled Scots Covenanter. The > > > Covenanters signed an oath in their own blood to support king Charles > > > and he agreed to support presbyterianism, but reneged upon the offer. > > > > The Scots Covenanters were the original "red necks." They wore a piece > > > of red cloth around their necks to signify their loyalty to king and > > > covenant. > > > > But thousands of Covenanters were murdered by the allies of the Church > > > of England. Sir Walter Scott wrote a book about the killings, it's > > > called "Old Mortality." > > > > My red neck Covenanter ancestor emigrated to western Pennsylvania > > > too... > > > > The Scots who were told to eat dirt or starve in the Carolinas moved > > > into the foothills of the Appalachians and finally across the Blue > > > Ridge into Kentucky and Tennessee, where they were trapped in a > > > cultural backwater for more than a century. > > > > They supported themselves by making moonshine and raising hogs. But, > > > as the west opened up, the "red necks" moved into the new territories > > > and tried to homestead. > > > > They always found the same situation: rich White people had gotten > > > there first, and looked down their noses at the newcomers. > > > > John Steinbeck's Pulitzer prize-winning novel, "Grapes of Wrath," is > > > about what happened here in this county when the US government > > > deported the illegal alien Mexicans and the Western Growers > > > Association needed agricultural laborers to pick their crops but > > > didn't want to pay a living wage to the "red necks", whom they called > > > "fruit tramps." > > > > and I'll be happy to > > > > > take you on a behind-the-scenes tour of my squeaky clean historic > > > > white-bread Massachusetts hometown sometime and show you. One > > > > unsanitary Yankee dump after another. > > > > Hey, don't badmouth Massachusetts Yankees. My ancestors founded > > > Massachusetts, and, if you'll name a town, I can probably name an > > > ancestor that lived there in the 17th century. > > > > > Scapegoating and broadbrushing one or another group does no good, does > > > > not solve problems, does not further your cause. Saying ridiculous > > > > things like "California ought to round 'em up and deport them" when > > > > the State of California has no such legal authority is also not > > > > helpful. > > > > I agree, our immigration laws should be staunchly applied > > > > > and illegal aliens should be removed; but this nation has plenty of > > > > other problems, spurred by many people of no particular descent, that > > > > make this one look like a piker, and these problems threaten to > > > > bankrupt us in numerous ways. > > > > Watch what you say! "Piker" is what the poor red necks were called > > > when they > > > moved across the west looking for homestead land. > > > > They could see Pikes peak from the flatlands of Kansas and knew they > > > were getting close to a place they thought they could settle down. My > > > great grandfather was a "piker" who settled his family in Colorado and > > > I still have lots of relatives there. > > > > "Pikers" who arrived in California's central valley 100 years ago > > > tried to live like they'd lived in Appalachia, Kentucky and Tennessee.. > > > > The rich White lawyers and bankers who got to California first cheated > > > the "pikers" out of whatever homestead land they'd managed to acquire.. > > > > There were lots of red necks raising hogs in the oak forests along the > > > Kaweah river before the rich farmers cut the 400 square mile forest > > > down and drained the huge lake in the middle of the San Joaquin > > > valley. > > > > If you've been watching Fox News, you've heard Sean Hannity ranting > > > and raving about the "dustbowl" conditions in "The Valley that Hope > > > Forgot." > > > > It's a bunch of bullshit, the greedy rich White farmers drained the > > > lake and diverted all the water from the rivers coming down from the > > > Sierra Nevada and turned the valley into a Mexican-infested desert! > > > You sound like a broken record - just as repetitious and just as > > obsolete. > > > For a guy who is so damn proud of his heritage, assuming any of it is > > true, you're pretty anonymous, too. > > > Your credibility here is dead. > > Heh, heh. Oh yeah, he's a real hero, alright. Claims to ride a > motorcycle but is scared to death of meeting anyone in person, in case > news gets out where his trailer is parked.- Hide quoted text - He and his two butthole buddies are terrified of me... Maybe because I know WHAT they are, where they are coming from and that I'm in good with the state vigilance commitee. I get one freebie and I'll necklace any of those three what shows their face in my presence.
From: krusty kritter on 5 Mar 2010 19:20
On Mar 5, 2:37 pm, Bruce Jensen <bpnjen...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I'm done, you may have the last word if you like. What? You spew a bunch of radical liberal BS, and then you wave your yellow hanky and quit? What kind of an American are you that doesn't even know what the "American Dream" is? |