From: saddlebag on
On Mar 28, 3:42 pm, "83LowRider" <a...(a)ddresswilldo.com> wrote:
> "saddlebag" wrote:
>
> They (Oreilly, Beck, and Hannity) typically lie for 2 or 3 hours straight..
>
> Keith and Rachel
>
> blather GOP talking points
>
> ad nausem
>
> impending world crisis
>
> call them lame names (followed by) Faux News.
> ----------
> This is what people see when you post.
> And you have the balls to blast CK?
> When your credentials are one hundredth
> of someone who has been writing a column
> IN DC, for OVER 20 years, maybe I'll put
> some merit in what you have to say.

If I had no scruples I could write a column that blasted the
"Democrat" <sic> party as Socialists day in and day out without
bothering to do any work too. It's not as if my audience would ever
fact check anything. Sheesh, all I'd need to do is take a poll:

Press 1 if:
You love Mom, America, and apple pie.

Press 2 if:
You you love communists, dictatorships, and illegal aliens urinating
on the flowers.

From: Vito on
"saddlebag" <saddlebag(a)aol.com> wrote
<as corrected>
[ And this is how Faux and friends pull the wool over your eyes. Sure
[ times "seemed" better, because the whole sham was built on a house of
[ cards. We <had> decent employment because we started two
[ unnecessary, unfunded wars and gave the richest in our society huge
[ tax <cuts> and no bid contracts. We had decent employment because
[ enforcement of bank regulations was non-existent and everyone bought a
[ mansion they couldn't afford while the bankers absconded with the profits.

.... but forgot to mention the "house flippers" (speculators) who then blew
up the housing/construction bubble til it burst.

[ And now of course its all that Socialist Obama's fault!

No, but it is his fault for continuing the very same things. He's had over
a year now. Is either war ended or even began ending faster than Bush
promised? No! Has he stopped the Reagan/Bush borrow-and-spend economics?
No! He borrows and spends faster than they did! Has he raised taxes or cut
spending? Nope? But he has fathered a massive entitlement program with
Nancy Pelosy.


From: 83LowRider on

"Vito" wrote
> <as corrected>
> [ And this is how Faux and friends pull the wool over your eyes. Sure
> [ times "seemed" better, because the whole sham was built on a house of
> [ cards. We <had> decent employment because we started two
> [ unnecessary, unfunded wars and gave the richest in our society huge
> [ tax <cuts> and no bid contracts. We had decent employment because
> [ enforcement of bank regulations was non-existent and everyone bought a
> [ mansion they couldn't afford while the bankers absconded with the
> profits.
>
> ... but forgot to mention the "house flippers" (speculators) who then blew
> up the housing/construction bubble til it burst.
>
> [ And now of course its all that Socialist Obama's fault!
>
> No, but it is his fault for continuing the very same things. He's had
> over
> a year now. Is either war ended or even began ending faster than Bush
> promised? No! Has he stopped the Reagan/Bush borrow-and-spend economics?
> No! He borrows and spends faster than they did! Has he raised taxes or
> cut
> spending? Nope? But he has fathered a massive entitlement program with
> Nancy Pelosy.

What gets me, is that Obama has made every effort possible
to extend those practices to those who simply cannot afford
a house. Many people recently re-financed or rearraged their
loans, and those very people have defaulted ONCE AGAIN
at a 50% rate. You'd think we'd have learned something from
the first time around.


From: saddlebag on
On Mar 31, 7:41 am, "Vito" <v...(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> "saddlebag" <saddle...(a)aol.com> wrote
> <as corrected>
> [ And this is how Faux and friends pull the wool over your eyes.  Sure
> [ times "seemed" better, because the whole sham was built on a house of
> [ cards.  We <had> decent employment because we started two
> [ unnecessary, unfunded wars and gave the richest in our society huge
> [ tax <cuts> and no bid contracts.  We had decent employment because
> [ enforcement of bank regulations was non-existent and everyone bought a
> [ mansion they couldn't afford while the bankers absconded with the profits.
>
> ... but forgot to mention the "house flippers" (speculators) who then blew
> up the housing/construction bubble til it burst.
>
> [ And now of course its all that Socialist Obama's fault!
>
> No, but it is his fault for continuing the very same things.  He's had over
> a year now. Is either war ended or even began ending faster than Bush
> promised? No!

Fine, then criticize him for that.

> Has he stopped the Reagan/Bush borrow-and-spend economics?

Fine, then criticize him for that.

> No!  He borrows and spends faster than they did!  Has he raised taxes or cut
> spending? Nope?  

From what I understand, he's letting the Bush tax breaks expire which
will in effect raise taxes.

Most economists would argue against a big tax increase and layoffs
during a recession. I happen to agree with you that he should
probably do a little of both, so again, I have no problem with you
criticizing him for that either.

And letting off the Bush criminals and the corporations that allowed
him to break the law irks too!

Look, the man is not perfect, but given the amount of resistance to
anything he tries to do, I think he's done a pretty exceptional job.
Still, I have no problem with pundits, network news, or Joe the
Plumber taking issue with his policies, provided they can make a
reasoned argument of how they could do it better. It's all the Faux
news bozos that have to incite their dimwitted audience to violence
nightly that I take issue with.

> But he has fathered a massive entitlement program with Nancy Pelosy.

Preventing the insurance industry from acting as a robber baron is not
an entitlement, it's good law.

From: saddlebag on
On Mar 31, 5:13 pm, "83LowRider" <a...(a)ddresswilldo.com> wrote:
> "Vito" wrote
>
>
>
>
>
> > <as corrected>
> > [ And this is how Faux and friends pull the wool over your eyes.  Sure
> > [ times "seemed" better, because the whole sham was built on a house of
> > [ cards.  We <had> decent employment because we started two
> > [ unnecessary, unfunded wars and gave the richest in our society huge
> > [ tax <cuts> and no bid contracts.  We had decent employment because
> > [ enforcement of bank regulations was non-existent and everyone bought a
> > [ mansion they couldn't afford while the bankers absconded with the
> > profits.
>
> > ... but forgot to mention the "house flippers" (speculators) who then blew
> > up the housing/construction bubble til it burst.
>
> > [ And now of course its all that Socialist Obama's fault!
>
> > No, but it is his fault for continuing the very same things.  He's had
> > over
> > a year now. Is either war ended or even began ending faster than Bush
> > promised? No! Has he stopped the Reagan/Bush borrow-and-spend economics?
> > No!  He borrows and spends faster than they did!  Has he raised taxes or
> > cut
> > spending? Nope?  But he has fathered a massive entitlement program with
> > Nancy Pelosy.
>
> What gets me, is that Obama has made every effort possible
> to extend those practices to those who simply cannot afford
> a house.

You are mischaracterizing his efforts. His policies are meant to help
working people who aren't able to make the ballooning loans they got
suckered into, but are working and can afford to make payments on
their house.

It is a sensible position if one that is hard to swallow. You don't
want your neighbors abandoning their properties and letting them
deteriorate, the bank doesn't want to foreclose on the house, the
county doesn't want them to stop paying property tax, and they don't
want to move. Helping them out is a marginal win for everyone.