From: S'mee on
On Nov 5, 12:33 pm, BrianNZ <br...(a)itnz.co.nz> wrote:
> S'mee wrote:
> > On Nov 4, 3:46 pm, "MikeWhy" <boat042-nos...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> "BrianNZ" <br...(a)itnz.co.nz> wrote in message
>
> >>news:4af1f45c$1(a)news.orcon.net.nz...
>
> >>> I drink and drive all the time.....I don't drive drunk.
> >> Not till you get caught at it anyway. As he said, Pot/Kettle.
>
> > You are assuming he meant alcoholic beverages...
>
> He was correct....  :)

If I sat you down over couple of cups of coffee adn told you WHY I
wont drive after even one drink...it's a safe bet you'd never drink
before driving. I think I told Don (calgary) that one years ago on the
NART shirt ride.

No it wont have the same impact over the net.
From: BrianNZ on
MikeWhy wrote:
> "BrianNZ" <brian(a)itnz.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:4af2286a$1(a)news.orcon.net.nz...
>> Fine them, take their licences and/or throw them in jail. It's not
>> like it's a new law and there are plenty of 'self help' agencies out
>> there that alcoholics can turn to for help. If thats what it takes to
>> snap them into reality, so be it. Thats what laws are for? To reform
>> people?
>
> That is the real question, and we're not just talking about drunks
> anymore here. Reform them into what? In who's image? Laws have never
> made a good neighbor out of a bad one.
>
>


Re. the drunk drivers....Reform them into 'recovering alcoholics'. Make
the AA meetings compulsory?

Laws may not make a bad neighbour a good one, but they will haul him off
to jail if he breaks them.
From: S'mee on
On Nov 5, 10:09 am, Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsch1216...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On Nov 5, 4:26 am, "Vito" <v...(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > "BrianNZ" <br...(a)itnz.co.nz> wrote
> > | Fine them, take their licences and/or throw them in jail. It's not like
> > | it's a new law ....
>
> > That's my point.  We have been fining, jailing and pulling licenses for over
> > 50 years that I know of yet we still have drunk drivers.  Obviously that
> > doesn't work.  It also punishes the drunks' kids who depend on him/her.  It
> > is time to try some different punishments. Stocks?  Flogging?  Crucifixion?
>
> Start by impounding and selling the car.

Then making them watch while it is scrapped? Oh and they still have to
make the payments!
From: S'mee on
On Nov 5, 10:31 am, "Vito" <v...(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> "Rob Kleinschmidt" <Rkleinsch1216...(a)aol.com> wrote
>
>  "Vito" <v...(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> > "BrianNZ" <br...(a)itnz.co.nz> wrote
> > | Fine them, take their licences and/or throw them in jail. It's not like
> > | it's a new law ....
>
> > That's my point. We have been fining, jailing and pulling licenses for
> > over
> > 50 years that I know of yet we still have drunk drivers. Obviously that
> > doesn't work. It also punishes the drunks' kids who depend on him/her. It
> > is time to try some different punishments. Stocks? Flogging? Crucifixion?
>
> [ Start by impounding and selling the car.
>
> "Due process" won't allow that if the car is owned in part by another
> person - like his wife or brother.
>
> Many police now have video.  It is technically easy to make the drunk test
> available to a judge & jury in real time and them to rule on the spot,
> allowing the cops to lock the dude inside a chainlink enclosure like a dog
> kennel for a few days of public abuse.  There are a zillion variations on
> this.

Nope, shouldn't matter who's car it is, impound and scrap.
From: S'mee on
On Nov 5, 10:22 am, "Vito" <v...(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> "S'mee" <stevenkei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote
> [ Especially when you consider that PT can't work except in urban areas.
> [ Sure wouldn't work in a the NW, again excepting urban areas.
>
> I tried it once upon a time. The red car from Compton to LA cost a buck
> round trip - less than half what parking and gas cost.  But it was hard to
> find a parking place at the station because joy riders dumped so many stolen
> cars there and if I did find one they'd strip my car during the day.  Then I
> got to sit beside the gal who bathed in perfume on the way up and beside the
> drunk who never bathed on the way back.

Your point being? That californiz...all freaks 8^) Try the Red Line or
Green line or commuter trains into and out of Boston. It works and the
crazy/homless/stupid people are amusing to watch.
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