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From: S'mee on 5 Nov 2009 14:49 On Nov 5, 12:33 pm, BrianNZ <br...(a)itnz.co.nz> wrote: > S'mee wrote: > > On Nov 4, 3:46 pm, "MikeWhy" <boat042-nos...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> "BrianNZ" <br...(a)itnz.co.nz> wrote in message > > >>news:4af1f45c$1(a)news.orcon.net.nz... > > >>> I drink and drive all the time.....I don't drive drunk. > >> Not till you get caught at it anyway. As he said, Pot/Kettle. > > > You are assuming he meant alcoholic beverages... > > He was correct.... :) If I sat you down over couple of cups of coffee adn told you WHY I wont drive after even one drink...it's a safe bet you'd never drink before driving. I think I told Don (calgary) that one years ago on the NART shirt ride. No it wont have the same impact over the net.
From: BrianNZ on 5 Nov 2009 14:49 MikeWhy wrote: > "BrianNZ" <brian(a)itnz.co.nz> wrote in message > news:4af2286a$1(a)news.orcon.net.nz... >> Fine them, take their licences and/or throw them in jail. It's not >> like it's a new law and there are plenty of 'self help' agencies out >> there that alcoholics can turn to for help. If thats what it takes to >> snap them into reality, so be it. Thats what laws are for? To reform >> people? > > That is the real question, and we're not just talking about drunks > anymore here. Reform them into what? In who's image? Laws have never > made a good neighbor out of a bad one. > > Re. the drunk drivers....Reform them into 'recovering alcoholics'. Make the AA meetings compulsory? Laws may not make a bad neighbour a good one, but they will haul him off to jail if he breaks them.
From: S'mee on 5 Nov 2009 14:50 On Nov 5, 10:09 am, Rob Kleinschmidt <Rkleinsch1216...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Nov 5, 4:26 am, "Vito" <v...(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote: > > > "BrianNZ" <br...(a)itnz.co.nz> wrote > > | Fine them, take their licences and/or throw them in jail. It's not like > > | it's a new law .... > > > That's my point. We have been fining, jailing and pulling licenses for over > > 50 years that I know of yet we still have drunk drivers. Obviously that > > doesn't work. It also punishes the drunks' kids who depend on him/her. It > > is time to try some different punishments. Stocks? Flogging? Crucifixion? > > Start by impounding and selling the car. Then making them watch while it is scrapped? Oh and they still have to make the payments!
From: S'mee on 5 Nov 2009 14:51 On Nov 5, 10:31 am, "Vito" <v...(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote: > "Rob Kleinschmidt" <Rkleinsch1216...(a)aol.com> wrote > > "Vito" <v...(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote: > > "BrianNZ" <br...(a)itnz.co.nz> wrote > > | Fine them, take their licences and/or throw them in jail. It's not like > > | it's a new law .... > > > That's my point. We have been fining, jailing and pulling licenses for > > over > > 50 years that I know of yet we still have drunk drivers. Obviously that > > doesn't work. It also punishes the drunks' kids who depend on him/her. It > > is time to try some different punishments. Stocks? Flogging? Crucifixion? > > [ Start by impounding and selling the car. > > "Due process" won't allow that if the car is owned in part by another > person - like his wife or brother. > > Many police now have video. It is technically easy to make the drunk test > available to a judge & jury in real time and them to rule on the spot, > allowing the cops to lock the dude inside a chainlink enclosure like a dog > kennel for a few days of public abuse. There are a zillion variations on > this. Nope, shouldn't matter who's car it is, impound and scrap.
From: S'mee on 5 Nov 2009 14:53
On Nov 5, 10:22 am, "Vito" <v...(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote: > "S'mee" <stevenkei...(a)hotmail.com> wrote > [ Especially when you consider that PT can't work except in urban areas. > [ Sure wouldn't work in a the NW, again excepting urban areas. > > I tried it once upon a time. The red car from Compton to LA cost a buck > round trip - less than half what parking and gas cost. But it was hard to > find a parking place at the station because joy riders dumped so many stolen > cars there and if I did find one they'd strip my car during the day. Then I > got to sit beside the gal who bathed in perfume on the way up and beside the > drunk who never bathed on the way back. Your point being? That californiz...all freaks 8^) Try the Red Line or Green line or commuter trains into and out of Boston. It works and the crazy/homless/stupid people are amusing to watch. |