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From: J. Clarke on 4 Nov 2009 06:50 The Older Gentleman wrote: > Datesfat Chicks <datesfat.chicks(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> If you step on a domestic airliner, your odds of dying are about 1 >> in 10 million. >> >> Dying of influenza in a given year: about 1 in 5,000. >> >> Dying from a car accident: also about 1 in 5,000. > > I'd be interested in the source of these stats, because with the USA's > population of about 300 million, that means 60,000 people die of the > flu every year and I think such an epidemic would have come to the > notice of the authorities, don't you? > > Same goes for road deaths, too, actually. He's not that far off--about 56,000 die of flu every year and 45,000 in motor vehicle accidents. More information on this sort of thing than you could possibly want can be found at <http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr57/nvsr57_14.pdf>.
From: TOG on 4 Nov 2009 07:57 On 4 Nov, 11:50, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote: > The Older Gentleman wrote: > > Datesfat Chicks <datesfat.chi...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> If you step on a domestic airliner, your odds of dying are about 1 > >> in 10 million. > > >> Dying of influenza in a given year: about 1 in 5,000. > > >> Dying from a car accident: also about 1 in 5,000. > > > I'd be interested in the source of these stats, because with the USA's > > population of about 300 million, that means 60,000 people die of the > > flu every year and I think such an epidemic would have come to the > > notice of the authorities, don't you? > > > Same goes for road deaths, too, actually. > > He's not that far off--about 56,000 die of flu every year and 45,000 in > motor vehicle accidents. > > More information on this sort of thing than you could possibly want can be > found at <http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr57/nvsr57_14.pdf>. Thanks for that. That flu data really surprises me, actually. Makes me wonder why all the fuss about swine flu if 'ordinary' flu is so nasty. As for the vehicle deaths - no, he's well out on that. I got a figure of about 42,000 deaths for 2007, and that (as Olson says) is one in over 7,000. That's still a horrendous figure. From memory, the UK road deaths figure is about 3,000 annually, and with a population of about 62 million, that means one death in 18,000 or so. <Googles> Blimey. No, we're even better than that. Deaths in 2008 fell to a record low of 2,538 (2,943 in 2007) and our population last year was 61 million, so that gives us a fatality rate of one in 24,000. OK, next question: why is the US road death rate about three and a half times ours? Actually, I think we did this before, and had an argument about it being due to the UK citizens being closer to hospitals. I don't think that will wash with a disparity this big..... What I would be interested to see is a comparison of our two countries' drunk-driver related deaths because I suspect that the USA's will be horrendous, compared with ours.
From: Shantideva Spirit on 4 Nov 2009 08:14 On Nov 4, 4:57 am, "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > OK, next question: why is the US road death rate about three and a > half times ours? Lack of public transportation in the States? The American drunk staggers out of the Dew Drop Inn, gets in his own car and kills himself on the highway. But the Slimey tosspot leaving the Slug and lettuce walks home or takes the Tube or Brit Rail to a more distant destination and lives long enough to die of red-nose-itis...
From: TOG on 4 Nov 2009 09:28 On 4 Nov, 13:14, Shantideva Spirit <macmi...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Nov 4, 4:57 am, "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > OK, next question: why is the US road death rate about three and a > > half times ours? > > Lack of public transportation in the States? So Americans *deliberately* drink and drive? Idiot.
From: S'mee on 4 Nov 2009 09:50
On Nov 4, 7:28 am, "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > On 4 Nov, 13:14, Shantideva Spirit <macmi...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Nov 4, 4:57 am, "TOG(a)Toil" <totallydeadmail...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > OK, next question: why is the US road death rate about three and a > > > half times ours? > > > Lack of public transportation in the States? > > So Americans *deliberately* drink and drive? Idiot. Worse...what is considered drivers training for the hell spawn (teenagers) is school sponsored, no skid pad no dissimilar surface training (wet, snow, ice, mud) etc etc...and any 16 y/o middle school drop out can pass the practicle (a joke) and the written. It's done deliberately so as to facilitate thinnning the herd. Problem is, it wont work. |