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From: BrianNZ on 4 Nov 2009 16:29 Vito wrote: > "BrianNZ" <brian(a)itnz.co.nz> wrote > | What an absolute cop out! Learn to drink responsibly. > > Most do. But there are 300 million of us. > > Pot! Kettle! > > The numbers are irrelevant....it's the attitude that counts? It was the way he was trying to blame a lack of public transport for drunks on the road. It is completely the drunks fault if he/she gets behind the wheel and causes a crash. If your drinking is so out of control that you can't have just a couple (and stay under the limit)...as in you need to keep drinking past that point.....then they need professional help to get themselves under control, rather than find external things to blame their problem on. I drink and drive all the time.....I don't drive drunk.
From: Shantideva Spirit on 4 Nov 2009 17:42 On Nov 4, 11:47 am, BrianNZ <br...(a)itnz.co.nz> wrote: > What an absolute cop out! Learn to drink responsibly. Apparently the limited being from the far side of the planet doesn't understand what "copping out" means in this situation where I attempted to explain to an argumentive Slimey why so many Americans drink and drive and drive and drink. A "cop out" is an excuse designed to shirk responsibility. However, I don't drink and drive, and I'm not making excuses for those who do drink and drive. And, to any reasonable person, I'm not responsible for drunk drivers, I cannot stop total strangers from drinking and driving or drinking while driving. I'm just telling it like it is, and around here, DUI is a serious problem, especially among the "hard workers" who will go on a "toot" and kill some innocent person. Then they tearfully tell the judge at their sentencing that they didn't mean to hurt anybody and they apologize to everybody who will listen.
From: MikeWhy on 4 Nov 2009 17:46 "BrianNZ" <brian(a)itnz.co.nz> wrote in message news:4af1f45c$1(a)news.orcon.net.nz... > > I drink and drive all the time.....I don't drive drunk. Not till you get caught at it anyway. As he said, Pot/Kettle.
From: Shantideva Spirit on 4 Nov 2009 17:49 On Nov 4, 1:07 pm, "Vito" <v...(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote: > Pot! Kettle! That's a apparent equalization of points of view which is easily broken down. The cast iron pot sits in the fire and blackens from soot. The kettle is clean and polished. The pot sees its own dark reflection in the shiny kettle, and accuses the kettle of being as black as itself. When the kettle looks at the pot, all it sees is blackness... So "pot or kettle" questions are really just timewasters.
From: BrianNZ on 4 Nov 2009 18:06
MikeWhy wrote: > "BrianNZ" <brian(a)itnz.co.nz> wrote in message > news:4af1f45c$1(a)news.orcon.net.nz... >> >> I drink and drive all the time.....I don't drive drunk. > > Not till you get caught at it anyway. As he said, Pot/Kettle. > > To stay under the limit is as simple as moderating my intake. They set the limit, I'll stay under it. It is not illegal to drink and drive. I'm not the one using lack of public transport to blame for drunks on the road, so the pot/kettle thing doesn't fit? |