From: .p.jm. on
On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 22:42:06 -0600, "MikeWhy"
<boat042-nospam(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>Datesfat Chicks wrote:
>...
>> weighing 74� pounds (33.7 kg) and measuring over five feet in total
>> length.[11]
>> I did not know they were that large. I was thinking smaller.
>>
>> A few of those in the 40-lb range could mess up your whole day.
>
>Be careful of getting carried away. Those fleeting glimpses of old werewolf
>movies as you flicked idly through the channels in the past week leading up

There wolf !


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From: J. Clarke on
Sean_Q_ wrote:
> Datesfat Chicks wrote:
>> "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet(a)cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:hclefu01jah(a)news5.newsguy.com...
>
>>> Coyotes have been known to persist in attacks on large prey for 8
>>> hours
> >> or more until it's brought
>>> down and can successfully bring down prey as large as elk. Once
>>> they've made the decision that this critter is dinner it takes more
>>> than whacking them with a stick to chase them off.
> >
>> Wikipedia says 21 hours if the attack is going well:
>
> In a nature documentary about Yellowstone NP there were elk, wolves
> and coyotes, one of whom seemed to have arrived at some accommodation
> with the wolves, at least, with Wolf Pack 'A'.
>
> The wolves would hunt the elk, and when they'd be lying around with
> full bellies this coyote would slink hesitantly up to the kill,
> waiting
> to see if the wolves would object (something like the jackal in
> the Far Side cartoon who "didn't want trouble"). Well, it seems
> Pack A was fairly tolerant about the coyote and they'd let him glean
> at bit from what was left of the elk.
>
> Then there was trouble. Some new wolves (Pack 'B') came along and
> chased Pack A out of the valley. Problem was, no one told the coyote.
> He had been away, courting Miss Coyote. So after Pack B had taken
> their first elk and were lazing around with full bellies, along came
> the coyote... which didn't amuse Pack B in the least. They chased
> after and killed him, full bellies or not. That left Mrs. Coyote a
> widow, and she raised her pups on moles and shrews or something less
> wolf-provoking to catch.
>
> Then there was an epidemic of canine distemper which pretty well wiped
> out Pack B, and after a while Pack A returned (too late for Mr.
> Coyote, of course).
>
> Now after reading Datesfat and Mr. Clarke's comments above I wonder
> why, if coyotes can bring down their own elk instead of scrounging
> from wolves, they didn't get a pack together and do that... maybe the
> problem was that all the Yellowstone elk herds were in wolf
> territory(?)

Yep. Coyotes don't thrive in wolf territory and red foxes don't thrive in
coyote territory.

>
> SQ

From: The Older Gentleman on
Sean_Q_ <no.spam(a)no.spam> wrote:

> From Rudyard Kipling's _The Jungle Book_:

<Massive snip>

Are you morphing into KrustyUS, now? Enough with the huge C&Ps. ;-)

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From: Leszek Karlik on
On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:16:44 +0100, The Older Gentleman
<totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

[...]
>> However in many areas you get the same jail time for pepper spray as
>> for a gun,

> Really? Wow.

In the UK pepper spray is covered by the Firearms Act, so depending on the
plod
and the judge you might get the same jail time, too. :-)

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From: Vito on
"Sean_Q_" <no.spam(a)no.spam> wrote
| It's worse when I'm traveling because I'd be away from my home turf
| on unfamiliar ground. Tourists in Miami have been robbed "because they
| took a wrong turn and got into a bad neighborhood by mistake" ....

Tourists are favorite prey, especially those from outside the US or from our
north east states. Florida residents can and many do carry guns concealed as
do visitors from other states with similar laws. Criminals know this and
seek unarmed prey.