From: BrianNZ on
Sean_Q_ wrote:
> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>> I got a shock when I discovered that airguns are legally
>> classed as firearms now.
>
> That took a while, didn't it? In Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's Victorian era
> story _The Adventure of the Empty House_ (pub 1905), a Colonel Moran
> assassinates the Honorable Ronald Adair with an air gun through
> a glass window. I'm not a gun nut-- er, ballistics expert, but if that's
> at all feasible they can be lethal weapons.
>
> SQ


We had a cop (undercover in 'plainclothes' caught in the act of planting
a tracking device on a drug dealers car.....the dealer thought he was
chasing a car thief) chased down the road and shot with an air rifle in
the chest....he died at the scene.
From: The Older Gentleman on
Sean_Q_ <no.spam(a)no.spam> wrote:

> if that's
> at all feasible they can be lethal weapons.

Oh, they can be, yes. Some kid was shot dead with one just last month,
or the month before. And people always uprate the springs, so you can
get something with the stopping power of a light .22 rifle.

It's just that the term 'firearm' suggests to me a degree of combustion
going on.


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From: J. Clarke on
Sean_Q_ wrote:
> The Older Gentleman wrote:
>> I got a shock when I discovered that airguns are legally
>> classed as firearms now.
>
> That took a while, didn't it? In Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's Victorian
> era story _The Adventure of the Empty House_ (pub 1905), a Colonel
> Moran assassinates the Honorable Ronald Adair with an air gun through
> a glass window. I'm not a gun nut-- er, ballistics expert, but if
> that's at all feasible they can be lethal weapons.

In the 1800s there were air guns marketed that were suitable for fair sized
game.

>
> SQ

From: J. Clarke on
The Older Gentleman wrote:
> Leszek Karlik <leslie(a)hell.pl> wrote:
>
>> In the UK pepper spray is covered by the Firearms Act,
>
> It is? Jesus. I got a shock when I discovered that airguns are legally
> classed as firearms now. Pepper sprays too, huh? Whatever next: harsh
> language?

Have you ever seen the movie "Demolition Man" with Sylvester Stallone and
Sandra Bullock? In it there are machines that ticket anyone who uses harsh
language. Sly finds a creative use for the tickets.

From: Outback Jon on
Doug Payne wrote:
> MikeWhy wrote:
>
>> Adult coyotes are about the size of a small german shepherd. If you're
>> not experienced or comfortable manhandling a dog that size and
>> ferocity, a close contact weapon isn't a good choice. Leave the knife
>> at home. Ditto for street bums and muggers. For the wilderness, a road
>> flare in a jacket pocket is probably your best bet.
>
> Try pepper spray, the kind designed for bears. Works great on large
> dogs. (And bears). Haven't used it on a mugger, but I expect it'd work
> just fine for one of those too. Nothing is perfect, but capsaicin is a
> pretty effective deterrent.

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