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From: Timo at Work on 12 Nov 2009 05:17 On Nov 12, 8:22 am, JeremyR <jeremy.robinsonNOSPAM(a)ul,ie> wrote: > darsy <da...(a)sticky.co.uk> wrote innews:vgenf5lansck33kdd8vn3jt4rc89i5bqrc(a)4ax.com: > > > On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:48:44 +0000, Champ <n...(a)champ.org.uk> wrote: > > >>Can anyone recommend a very good book on the First World War. > > >>I've been interested in it for some time (since reading Pat Barker's > >>trilogy) and, having tonight watched Andrew Marr's "Making of Modern > >>Britain", which covered it, I feel the need to read a good in depth > >>history of the war. > > >>Anyone? > > > not me, but if you want a /novel/ set in a bit of WW1 that's rarely > > discussed, try "An Ice-cream war", by William Boyd. > > If we are recommending fiction too, I agree with the above and "Strange > Meeting" by Susan Hill. The Pat Barker trilogy was the best fiction I > read about WW1, but if Champ likes looking at pictures rather than > reading, there is also Charley's War from the Battle Comic in the 80s > republished as hardbacks. I buy my son a volume every year. He likes it. For fiction/fictionalised accounts, "All quiet on the Western Front" is probably hard to beat. So good it was banned in Germany. But of course it's less about the war and more about how soldiers experienced said war. Not what you'd call a pleasant read either.
From: ogden on 12 Nov 2009 05:22 Timo at Work wrote: > On Nov 12, 8:22 am, JeremyR <jeremy.robinsonNOSPAM(a)ul,ie> wrote: > > darsy <da...(a)sticky.co.uk> wrote innews:vgenf5lansck33kdd8vn3jt4rc89i5bqrc(a)4ax.com: > > > > > On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:48:44 +0000, Champ <n...(a)champ.org.uk> wrote: > > > > >>Can anyone recommend a very good book on the First World War. > > > > >>I've been interested in it for some time (since reading Pat Barker's > > >>trilogy) and, having tonight watched Andrew Marr's "Making of Modern > > >>Britain", which covered it, I feel the need to read a good in depth > > >>history of the war. > > > > >>Anyone? > > > > > not me, but if you want a /novel/ set in a bit of WW1 that's rarely > > > discussed, try "An Ice-cream war", by William Boyd. > > > > If we are recommending fiction too, I agree with the above and "Strange > > Meeting" by Susan Hill. The Pat Barker trilogy was the best fiction I > > read about WW1, but if Champ likes looking at pictures rather than > > reading, there is also Charley's War from the Battle Comic in the 80s > > republished as hardbacks. I buy my son a volume every year. He likes it.. > > For fiction/fictionalised accounts, "All quiet on the Western Front" > is probably hard to beat. So good it was banned in Germany. But of > course it's less about the war and more about how soldiers experienced > said war. Not what you'd call a pleasant read either. More lighthearted than, say, Hiroshima. Though the latter did have one moment that made me laugh out loud. -- ogden
From: TOG on 12 Nov 2009 05:31 On 12 Nov, 10:17, Timo at Work <tim...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Nov 12, 8:22 am, JeremyR <jeremy.robinsonNOSPAM(a)ul,ie> wrote: > > > > > darsy <da...(a)sticky.co.uk> wrote innews:vgenf5lansck33kdd8vn3jt4rc89i5bqrc(a)4ax.com: > > > > On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:48:44 +0000, Champ <n...(a)champ.org.uk> wrote: > > > >>Can anyone recommend a very good book on the First World War. > > > >>I've been interested in it for some time (since reading Pat Barker's > > >>trilogy) and, having tonight watched Andrew Marr's "Making of Modern > > >>Britain", which covered it, I feel the need to read a good in depth > > >>history of the war. > > > >>Anyone? > > > > not me, but if you want a /novel/ set in a bit of WW1 that's rarely > > > discussed, try "An Ice-cream war", by William Boyd. > > > If we are recommending fiction too, I agree with the above and "Strange > > Meeting" by Susan Hill. The Pat Barker trilogy was the best fiction I > > read about WW1, but if Champ likes looking at pictures rather than > > reading, there is also Charley's War from the Battle Comic in the 80s > > republished as hardbacks. I buy my son a volume every year. He likes it.. > > For fiction/fictionalised accounts, "All quiet on the Western Front" > is probably hard to beat. So good it was banned in Germany. But of > course it's less about the war and more about how soldiers experienced > said war. Not what you'd call a pleasant read either. It's a fantastic book[1], agreed. And since we're talking WW1 literary fiction,A Farewell to Arms by Ernest Hemingway and Goodbye To All That by Robert Graves are equally rated. [1] And film. At least, the early b/w one, which is the only version I've ever seen, is. No idea if they did any remakes.
From: Champ on 12 Nov 2009 05:42 On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:58:09 -0000, ogden <ogden(a)pre.org> wrote: >Champ wrote: >> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:35:48 +0000, darsy <darsy(a)sticky.co.uk> wrote: >> >> >not me, but if you want a /novel/ set in a bit of WW1 that's rarely >> >discussed, try "An Ice-cream war", by William Boyd. >> >> Noted, ta. I loved "Any Human Heart" by Boyd, recommmended by you >> iirc. F read my copy this year and really enjoyed it too. > >You've probably already read it, but (most of) Birdsong is quite good. Yep, I have read it, and liked it quite a lot. The first half is better than the second, mind. >Download a hooky copy of Oh What A Lovely War. Isn't that a musical? -- Champ We declare that the splendor of the world has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed. ZX10R | Hayabusa | GPz750turbo neal at champ dot org dot uk
From: Veggie Dave on 12 Nov 2009 05:51
Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> wrote the following literary masterpiece: >Can anyone recommend a very good book on the First World War. And on a related note, can anyone recommend a book on de Gaulle and his attitude to working with the Allies during WWII? -- Veggie Dave http://www.iq18films.co.uk "To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin." Cardinal Bellarmine |