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From: The Older Gentleman on 12 Nov 2009 11:28 Veggie Dave <Veggie~Dave(a)127.0.0.1> wrote: > Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> wrote the following literary masterpiece: > >Can anyone recommend a very good book on the First World War. > > And on a related note, can anyone recommend a book on de Gaulle and his > attitude to working with the Allies during WWII? Anthony Beevor, in his new book on D-Day, goes into more detail about this than I've read anywhere else. Just does DG and Churchill but DG and Eisenhower and (in fact) pretty much everything. Churchill didn't like him (possibly because they had a similar single-minded approach to their countries) but recognised him as the only Frenchman really worth a light. Ike thought him churlish in that he took all the US aid he could and didn't say "thanks". And engineered the liberation of Paris to present it as a French victory. DG wanted one thing, which was to establish a coherent French government ASAP because he didn't want France to be "occupied" by either the Brits or the Yanks. And, as Beevor says, he feared what he saw as massive British power, not realising that it was only being kept working by American credit. Recommended. Really. -- BMW K1100LT & K100RS Ducati 750SS Triumph Street Triple Honda CB400F Suzuki TS250 chateaudotmurrayatidnetdotcom Nothing damages a machine more than an ignoramus with a manual, a can-do attitude and a set of cheap tools
From: Nige on 12 Nov 2009 11:37 The Older Gentleman wrote: > Veggie Dave <Veggie~Dave(a)127.0.0.1> wrote: > >> Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> wrote the following literary masterpiece: >>> Can anyone recommend a very good book on the First World War. >> >> And on a related note, can anyone recommend a book on de Gaulle and his >> attitude to working with the Allies during WWII? > > Anthony Beevor, in his new book on D-Day, goes into more detail about > this than I've read anywhere else. > > > Recommended. Really. I didn't like it & I do like Beevor. -- Nige, BMW K1200S Range Rover Vogue
From: Nige on 12 Nov 2009 11:38 Nige wrote: > The Older Gentleman wrote: >> Veggie Dave <Veggie~Dave(a)127.0.0.1> wrote: >> >>> Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> wrote the following literary masterpiece: >>>> Can anyone recommend a very good book on the First World War. >>> >>> And on a related note, can anyone recommend a book on de Gaulle and his >>> attitude to working with the Allies during WWII? >> >> Anthony Beevor, in his new book on D-Day, goes into more detail about >> this than I've read anywhere else. >> > >> >> Recommended. Really. > > I didn't like it & I do like Beevor. :) -- Nige, BMW K1200S Range Rover Vogue
From: Veggie Dave on 12 Nov 2009 11:35 The Older Gentleman <totallydeadmailbox(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote the following literary masterpiece: >Anthony Beevor 'D-Day: The Battle for Normandy' >Recommended. Really. Cool. Ta. -- Veggie Dave http://www.iq18films.co.uk "To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin." Cardinal Bellarmine
From: Kim Bolton on 12 Nov 2009 12:09
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote: >We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the >drugs began to take hold. I remember Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> saying >something like: > >>Can anyone recommend a very good book on the First World War. >> >>I've been interested in it for some time (since reading Pat Barker's >>trilogy) and, having tonight watched Andrew Marr's "Making of Modern >>Britain", which covered it, I feel the need to read a good in depth >>history of the war. >> >>Anyone? > >Alan Clark's 'The Donkeys' is excellent. >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Clark#Historical_writing I'll second that, and add 'Haig's Command', by Denis Winter. -- from Kim Bolton |