From: Advocacy Moderator on 22 Nov 2009 18:05 SteveH wrote: > High Plains Thumper wrote: > >>> Good lord no. Just the same as in the pedal position doesn't change >>> in their cars. >> >> One can tell a right-sider nube cager in a left-sider country. The >> wipers instead of the turn indicators are in motion at a stop. :-) > > How does that work, then? - 'cos I've never owned a car with the stalks > reversed. Actually, I was being facetious. Having driven on Japanese highways, made the erroneous assumption that all controls in left-hand-drive cars cars in the world are standardised. They are not. IMO, best explanation is from the following: [quote] Steve Boyd 9th Sep 09, 22:22 When indicator stalks were first introduced in the 1950's all British cars had the stalk on the right side of the steering wheel because, as said above, you can select gear & indicate at the same time. This continued until the late 1970's & early 1980's when the cheapskates at Ford & GM started using the same steering column assemblies for both right and left hand drive models to save money. They were then followed by British Leyland & the other UK manufacturers so that you had to buy a Japanese car to get the switches the right way around. With the opening of Japanese owned plants in the UK you can't even rely on a Nissan, Toyota or Honda to have the indicators on the right any more as the cars they build in the UK now tend to have "European" switch layouts. Japanese built cars still appear to have the switch on the right on right hand drive cars and I've seen so called "motoring journalists" complain that they have the switches the wrong way around thus proving their lack of experience. I've had a Seat (with the switch on the left) for 50000 miles since having a Toyota (switch on the right) and still occasionally wash the windscreen instead of flashing the headlamps. [/quote] http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums//archive/index.php/t-125016.html Sorry. -- HPT
From: Champ on 22 Nov 2009 18:28 On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:38:31 +0000, Catman <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote: >>> There shouldn't be any need to indicate whilst changing gear. >>> >>> Remember Mirror,Signal,Maneuver? >> >> I do. And just what does that have to do with changing gear? >Changing gear would classically regarded as either a maneuver, or part >of one. What utter bollocks. -- Champ We declare that the splendor of the world has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed. ZX10R | Hayabusa | GPz750turbo neal at champ dot org dot uk
From: Lozzo on 22 Nov 2009 18:56 Cab wrote: > The Older Gentleman wrote: > > > > > So did the Xsara Picasso I was a passenger in recently. > > > > > > I had one of those, really good car. > > > > <fx: blinks in disbelief> > > > > The one I rode in seemed to be made out of balsa wood, reject > > electrical components, and recycled Airfix kits. > > I'm also dumb-founded. I've had lots of experience with French cars > and have found that in general, build quality is shite. Reliable, didn't fall apart, quick, handled, loads of storage space, spacious, extremely comfy, quiet, rattle-free and cheap to run. That's what made it a good car in my eyes. It was amazingly well built for a Citroen. -- Lozzo Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, SR250 SpazzTrakka, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere) Garage clearout - Yamaha SpazzTrakka 250 for sale, email for details
From: Grimly Curmudgeon on 22 Nov 2009 19:16 We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "sweller" <sweller(a)mztech.fsnet.co.uk> saying something like: >> > The old Jag autos were on the right too. >> >> Conversely, the two I had were on the left, so there's no >> standardisation. > >Jags or column change? Shite old Vauxhall and Bedford CA - strange, but quite useable. Istr the Austin A60 van had it on the left too, but I only drove that briefly.
From: Higgins on 23 Nov 2009 01:01
Oily wrote: > "Cab" wrote............ > >> The Older Gentleman wrote: >> >>>>> So did the Xsara Picasso I was a passenger in recently. >>>> I had one of those, really good car. >>> <fx: blinks in disbelief> >>> >>> The one I rode in seemed to be made out of balsa wood, reject >>> electrical components, and recycled Airfix kits. >> I'm also dumb-founded. I've had lots of experience with French cars and >> have found that in general, build quality is shite. >> > Reinforces the belief that the only good thing to come out of France is the > road north. :-) > > To Belgium? |