Q's about bikes in Blighty
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From: Catman on 23 Nov 2009 02:52 Marc wrote: > Catman wrote: >> Marc wrote: >>> Catman wrote: >>>> Marc wrote: >>>>> Andrew998 wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> "Marc" <initial.surname(a)btintenret.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:N-ydnUKq89d9upTWnZ2dnUVZ8u6dnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>>>>>> Andrew998 wrote: >>>>>>>> "central" <central77(a)fastmailNOSPAM.fm> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:014d5ced$0$14168$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:31:21 +0000, Lozzo wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Pete Fisher wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Might be now. My 97 Mazda MX5 has it on the other side >>>>>>>>>>> (right) to my 08 >>>>>>>>>>> Mazda 6. Tends to lead to trying to indicate with the >>>>>>>>>>> windscreen >>>>>>>>>>> wipers the first time if I haven't driven the MX5 for a while. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My Dad's '97 model Toyota Corrolla has the indicators on the >>>>>>>>>> right >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Most Japanese *home market* cars have it (used to have it?) on the >>>>>>>>> opposite side to Europe - hence old Jap cars, grey imports etc >>>>>>>>> are on the >>>>>>>>> 'wrong' side when they get here. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Most Jap cars have indicators on the right because, like here, >>>>>>>> they drive on the left so it is the correct way to do it. It >>>>>>>> means you can operate the indicators whilst changing gear. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> There shouldn't be any need to indicate whilst changing gear. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Remember Mirror,Signal,Maneuver? >>>>>> >>>>>> I do. And just what does that have to do with changing gear? >>>>>> >>>>> Why would you need to change gear unless you were changing vector? >>>> >>>> I think technically you *could* change gear without changing vector. >>>> Steering straight, just change revs to keep speed consistent. >>>> >>>> Yes, there would be a slight change of vector as you disengage >>>> drive, and you're unlikely to get the revs so spot on that you hit >>>> exactly the same speed, but it could, in theory, be done I feel. >>> You could, but, I repeat, "Why would you need to change gear unless >>> you were changing vector?" >> >> Well, what does that have to do with maneuvering? >> > You have a definition of "Maneuver" that has the vector unchanged? No, but I have clearly demonstrated when you would need to change gear without changing vector. I'm sure that you are capable of working out how you could change vector without changing gear. In short, MSM has nothing to do with changing gear. You *might* be changing gear, you might not. -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 GTV TS 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
From: Catman on 23 Nov 2009 02:52 SteveH wrote: > High Plains Thumper <highplainsthumper(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > >>> Good lord no. Just the same as in the pedal position doesn't change >>> in their cars. >> One can tell a right-sider nube cager in a left-sider country. The >> wipers instead of the turn indicators are in motion at a stop. :-) > > How does that work, then? - 'cos I've never owned a car with the stalks > reversed. ISTR the Sprint has them the other way, but ICBW. It's been a while. -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 GTV TS 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
From: Catman on 23 Nov 2009 02:55 Champ wrote: > On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:38:31 +0000, Catman > <catman(a)rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote: > >>>> There shouldn't be any need to indicate whilst changing gear. >>>> >>>> Remember Mirror,Signal,Maneuver? >>> I do. And just what does that have to do with changing gear? > >> Changing gear would classically regarded as either a maneuver, or part >> of one. > > What utter bollocks. Sorry, I should have used 'potentially' in there. But as I managed to work out, there needs to be no link. -- Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3 Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply) 116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 GTV TS 156 V6 2.5 S2 Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see. www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
From: Krusty on 23 Nov 2009 04:42 Oily wrote: > > "Cab" wrote............ > > > The Older Gentleman wrote: > > > > > > > So did the Xsara Picasso I was a passenger in recently. > > > > > > > > I had one of those, really good car. > > > > > > <fx: blinks in disbelief> > > > > > > The one I rode in seemed to be made out of balsa wood, reject > > > electrical components, and recycled Airfix kits. > > > > I'm also dumb-founded. I've had lots of experience with French cars > > and have found that in general, build quality is shite. > > > Reinforces the belief that the only good thing to come out of France > is the road north. :-) I prefer the roads SW & SE. Oh, & http://theinvisibleagent.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/citroen_ds.jpg -- Krusty '03 Tiger 955i '02 MV Senna '96 Tiger (for sale) '79 Fantic Hiro 250 (for sale) '81 Corvette (for sale)
From: Champ on 23 Nov 2009 05:19
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:36:54 +0000, Pete Fisher <Peter(a)ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> wrote: >SWMBO's Punto JTD has gone 5 years and 43000 miles without any problems, >yet most on here will say all Fiats are rubbish build quality. For some >people 'build quality' seems to be more about the aesthetics of the >plastic cabin and instrument panel than basic reliability. Quite - what they really mean is 'fit and finish', usually judged by the noise the door makes when you shut it. This is why I always has a hollow laugh when Honda motorcycles are claimed by newbies to have a high 'build quality'. -- Champ We declare that the splendor of the world has been enriched by a new beauty: the beauty of speed. ZX10R | Hayabusa | GPz750turbo neal at champ dot org dot uk |