Q's about bikes in Blighty
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From: Marc on 22 Nov 2009 15:27 Catman wrote: > Marc wrote: >> Catman wrote: >>> Marc wrote: >>>> Andrew998 wrote: >>>>> >>>>> "Marc" <initial.surname(a)btintenret.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:N-ydnUKq89d9upTWnZ2dnUVZ8u6dnZ2d(a)bt.com... >>>>>> Andrew998 wrote: >>>>>>> "central" <central77(a)fastmailNOSPAM.fm> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:014d5ced$0$14168$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:31:21 +0000, Lozzo wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pete Fisher wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Might be now. My 97 Mazda MX5 has it on the other side (right) >>>>>>>>>> to my 08 >>>>>>>>>> Mazda 6. Tends to lead to trying to indicate with the windscreen >>>>>>>>>> wipers the first time if I haven't driven the MX5 for a while. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My Dad's '97 model Toyota Corrolla has the indicators on the right >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Most Japanese *home market* cars have it (used to have it?) on the >>>>>>>> opposite side to Europe - hence old Jap cars, grey imports etc >>>>>>>> are on the >>>>>>>> 'wrong' side when they get here. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Most Jap cars have indicators on the right because, like here, >>>>>>> they drive on the left so it is the correct way to do it. It >>>>>>> means you can operate the indicators whilst changing gear. >>>>>>> >>>>>> There shouldn't be any need to indicate whilst changing gear. >>>>>> >>>>>> Remember Mirror,Signal,Maneuver? >>>>> >>>>> I do. And just what does that have to do with changing gear? >>>>> >>>> Why would you need to change gear unless you were changing vector? >>> >>> I think technically you *could* change gear without changing vector. >>> Steering straight, just change revs to keep speed consistent. >>> >>> Yes, there would be a slight change of vector as you disengage drive, >>> and you're unlikely to get the revs so spot on that you hit exactly >>> the same speed, but it could, in theory, be done I feel. >> You could, but, I repeat, "Why would you need to change gear unless >> you were changing vector?" > > Well, what does that have to do with maneuvering? > You have a definition of "Maneuver" that has the vector unchanged?
From: Lozzo on 22 Nov 2009 16:56 Oily wrote: > > "Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote.......... > > > We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when > > the drugs began to take hold. I remember "sweller" > > saying something like: > > > > > > > > Column shifts tend to be on the right - the last one I had was on > > > a 1975 SAAB 96 (manual). > > > > > > The old Jag autos were on the right too. > > > > Conversely, the two I had were on the left, so there's no > > standardisation. > > I had a Mk2 jag and a Daimler 250 V8 which were both on the left > IIRC, the others were floor change manual. Wrong. THe 250 V8 auto most definitely has the column change on the right. -- Lozzo Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, SR250 SpazzTrakka, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere) Garage clearout - Yamaha SpazzTrakka 250 for sale, email for details
From: Lozzo on 22 Nov 2009 16:57 sweller wrote: > Grimly Curmudgeon wrote: > > > > Column shifts tend to be on the right - the last one I had was on > > > a 1975 SAAB 96 (manual). > > > > > > The old Jag autos were on the right too. > > > > Conversely, the two I had were on the left, so there's no > > standardisation. > > I mis-remembered the SAAB - it was on the left. > http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/images/saab96dash.jpg > > I'm still certain Jags are on the right. The Daimler 250 V8 auto definitely is. I was driving one the other day -- Lozzo Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, SR250 SpazzTrakka, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere) Garage clearout - Yamaha SpazzTrakka 250 for sale, email for details
From: Lozzo on 22 Nov 2009 16:58 The Older Gentleman wrote: > Cab <me(a)privacy.net> wrote: > > > On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:06:26 +0000, The Older Gentleman wibbled: > > > Sean_Q_ <no.spam(a)no.spam> wrote: > > > > > >> Thanks for the info. Re cars, I suppose that a floor-mounted > > gear shift >> would still be in the middle, operated by the left > > hand. (*That* would >> seem very strange at first. On a standard > > I'd likely grind off all >> the gear cogs getting the hang of it.) > > > > > > They're mostly there, yes. Some French cars still have them > > > sticking out of the dash, I think. > > > > Yes, the humble 2CV has it sticking out of the dash. > > So did the Xsara Picasso I was a passenger in recently. I had one of those, really good car. -- Lozzo Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, SR250 SpazzTrakka, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere) Garage clearout - Yamaha SpazzTrakka 250 for sale, email for details
From: High Plains Thumper on 22 Nov 2009 17:05
doetnietcomputeren wrote: > Sean_Q_ said: > >> ...and other drive-on-the-left countries such as New Zealand. >> >> 1. Do they have the throttle on the left and clutch on the right >> hand side of the bike? (ie, mirror images of the North American >> arrangement?) > > Good lord no. Just the same as in the pedal position doesn't change > in their cars. One can tell a right-sider nube cager in a left-sider country. The wipers instead of the turn indicators are in motion at a stop. :-) -- HPT |