From: tomorrow on
On Jul 7, 3:48 pm, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> On 7/7/2010 2:29 PM, tomor...(a)erols.com wrote:
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> > On Jul 7, 12:57 pm, "J. Clarke"<jclarke.use...(a)cox.net>  wrote:
> >> On 7/7/2010 10:54 AM, tomor...(a)erols.com wrote:
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> >>> On Jul 6, 8:51 pm, BryanUT<nestl...(a)comcast.net>    wrote:
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> >>>> I guess I could have just run the red light. Damn sensors not "seeing"
> >>>> motorcycles. No wonder cages hit us.
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> >>> In Virginia, after you wait through one full cycle of the light, you
> >>> may legally proceed on red.   (Not that I would enjoy explaining it to
> >>> a cop, if stopped!)
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> >> Tricky, tricky.  If the light's just stuck on red then there's no "one
> >> full cycle" to wait through.  Be better if they required you to wait
> >> three minutes or something.
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> > One full cycle of the lights that *are* changing.   Pretty simple, to
> > my simple way of thinking.
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> If it's one of these big complicated intersections with a dozen lights
> or a big city intersection where you can see the lights a block down the
> street, that's fine, but how about in small towns where there may only
> be one light in sight?

Ah, got you. I was narrowly focusing on left hand turn lights, since
those are the ones that cause the most grief where I live. You are
right, that woul dbe quite problematical at a single light
intersection!
From: Bob Myers on
tomorrow(a)erols.com wrote:
> On Jul 7, 3:40 pm, Futility Man <n...(a)futile.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 11:28:57 -0700 (PDT), "tomor...(a)erols.com"
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>> <tomorrowaterolsdot...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> I'm old, respectable
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>> ...and half-right.
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> Too true, I'm afraid.

And note how no one is wondering which half....;-)

Applies to us all, though. Sigh. But at least I absolutely
refuse to start a second childhood until I am well and truly
through with the first one.

Bob M.


From: Vito on
tomorrow(a)erols.com wrote:
> Ah, got you. I was narrowly focusing on left hand turn lights, since
> those are the ones that cause the most grief where I live. You are
> right, that woul dbe quite problematical at a single light
> intersection!

Their sensitivity gets lowered to prevent cars passing in adjacent lane from
triggering the left turn cycle ... which means they don't see your mosigle.


From: Rob Kleinschmidt on
On Jul 7, 12:37 pm, "Bob Myers" <nospample...(a)address.invalid> wrote:

> But at least I absolutely
> refuse to start a second childhood until I am well and truly
> through with the first one.

Personally, I'm hoping for a seamless transition from
one to the other.

From: High Plains Thumper on
Capri142 wrote:
> BryanUT wrote:
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>> I go to work pretty early, so I am stuck at an intersection,
>> waiting, waiting, waiting. So I make a right on red, uturn and
>> another right on red. Is that beating the system?
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>> I guess I could have just run the red light. Damn sensors not
>> "seeing" motorcycles. No wonder cages hit us.
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>> Buses are your friend, they can signal the light to change, I
>> wonder how hard that is to hack. Hmmm, my friend works for the
>> bus company.....
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> I had the same problem with a Yamaha 950. there were 2 lights on the
> way to and from work that just would not change from red to green for
> me. Solution. I bought a large flat magnet at ACE hardware for 5
> bucks and epoxy glued it to the bottom of the bike. When stopping at
> the light I would place the magnet in the area of the sensor wire in
> the road and I never had a problem with it again. I think you need to
> be careful where you place the magnet on the bike so that it does not
> screw up any electonics. I put mine right on the skid plate below the
> oil pan, figured if anything it may have pulled some metal out of the
> oil.....or not

Yes, I have heard of the same solution before by other bikers. The
other recommended was to drive the rims of the tyres overtop the
embedded tripwire loop in the black top. However, I have found that not
all signals will work even with that solution.

However, we could turn this into an oil thread, if the location of your
magnet attracts the steel bits and prevents them from being emptied out
the crankcase during oil change. :-)

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HPT