From: Jim on
On 02/08/10 14:18, Hog wrote:
>> Maybe it's similarly OK to nick the products which pay for commercial
>> free-to-air TV channels through advertising...?
>
> What I said was; socially and economically it is a bad system.

Would you prefer the BBC to be funded via general taxation or by
advertising revenue?
From: Champ on
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 14:06:17 +0100, "Hog"
<sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>The licence fee is patently is not a good idea. It puts excessive numbers of
>people in Court and in jail for non payment of fines. Not to mention the
>costs of reminders and enforcement.

It's a terrible system. But, for raising money to fund TV production,
it's better than all the alternatives.

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From: stephen.packer on
Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> Champ <news(a)champ.org.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
> saying:
>
> > Given that the BBC has, and still does, produce some of the best TV in
> > the world, it's a charging model I'm happy to support.
>
> The TV licence is also a metric shitload cheaper than the cost of TV
> advertising to the average household.

How do you define and calculate the 'cost of advertising to the average
household'?
From: Hog on
Champ wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 14:06:17 +0100, "Hog"
> <sm911SPAM(a)CHIPShotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> The licence fee is patently is not a good idea. It puts excessive
>> numbers of people in Court and in jail for non payment of fines. Not
>> to mention the costs of reminders and enforcement.
>
> It's a terrible system. But, for raising money to fund TV production,
> it's better than all the alternatives.

But the consequences are unacceptable.
Non payment of TV licence fines is the largest group of single parent
females in jail.

--
Hog


From: Adrian on
stephen.packer(a)gonemail.com gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

>> > Given that the BBC has, and still does, produce some of the best TV
>> > in the world, it's a charging model I'm happy to support.

>> The TV licence is also a metric shitload cheaper than the cost of TV
>> advertising to the average household.

> How do you define and calculate the 'cost of advertising to the average
> household'?

You could just look at the total ad revenue for the main terrestrial
commercial channels, and divide by the number of households and get a
figure that - even with the massive downturn over the last couple of
years - is not a million miles from the TV licence fee - but that's a
massively over-simplistic answer, since it ignores all the costs of
production etc.

Still, just from having one of our cars in a couple of blink-and-miss-'em
scenes on a TV beer ad a few years back, my licence got paid for the
thick end of a decade...
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